Silver or Iron ?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Henry112345, Apr 15, 2022.

  1. Henry112345

    Henry112345 Member

    Hi, guys

    I’m not so sure , is this appearance normal to silver artifact which was discovered from salt water ? ( Since it has a seashell stick on it , so I infer it was been found in water ) and is this possible an iron ring ? Please share with me your opinion.

    9.8 g , 29mm

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  3. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    How does it react to a magnet? Whatever the metal, I love the signet design.
     
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  4. Henry112345

    Henry112345 Member

    Yes , I did think about this option , but this ring is pretty weak so far , flanking many crumbs , so I put it in Moisture-proof box , and waiting to use reinforcement to smear it , before that I won’t try menget to test it , I worry it will be broke a part by hit

    Yeah , the design of the image is Victoria driving the trigarium. Thank you.
     
  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The fact that the band looks extremely corroded while the signet design is pristine is certain proof that, whatever it is, it didn't spend any time in seawater. It's probably some sort of tourist trinket.
     
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  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    kool artifact! :)
     
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  7. Henry112345

    Henry112345 Member

    I’m not very sure what do you mean tourist trinket ? Do you mean the seashell on the band or the ring might be a souvenir, replica ?

    And if the answer is first one , then what kind of situation might cause silver become like this , if I assume it is made by silver ?

    Thanks.
     
  8. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    .i noticed that too, but its made of different material than the ring itself....while it woulda had some type of crud on it, it most likely wouldn't have been too overly hard to clean ....and i'm wondering how the shell critter got into the metal....i'm from Missouri....:p
     
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  9. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Not having the item in hand this is speculation. The face of the coin appears to be carved onyx or similar mineral and the ring appears to be heavily corroded silver.
     
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  10. akeady

    akeady Well-Known Member

    What is the blue material under the black?

    ATB,
    Aidan.
     
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  11. Henry112345

    Henry112345 Member

    It is a serpentine stone intaglio, information is provide from an auction house.
     
  12. Henry112345

    Henry112345 Member

    I get same doubt too , seems doesn’t like it was a part of the ring , since only appear on one side , it might be some sort of copper alloy material been bury with the ring. (Not very sure )
     
  13. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    I wouldn't have thought serpentine, they usuall have a greenish or brown tint running through them
     
  14. Henry112345

    Henry112345 Member

    well , serpentine could be many different color , here is the reference of mining place and example of serpentine. It has red one , from France and UK.

    https://www.mindat.org/gm/11135
     
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  15. Henry112345

    Henry112345 Member

    Although , it was come from an trusty auction , but I still worry they might be wrong sometimes , so that is the reason why I asking the material of the ring on this form , since the ring itself is a little bit light , and strange appearance. And I’m worry to use the menget to measure it , because it might cause to hit it , and the condition I think is not really good , so I rather put it in Moisture-proof box before it has been smear the reinforcement on it.
     
  16. Dwarf

    Dwarf Active Member

    It looks like one of the numerous objects made for tourists I have seen in the last decades - sorry for my opinion
     
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  17. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    I can't make a judgement about your ring, but it reminds me of seeing Union soldier belt buckle with a confederate bullet embedded in it. That was proved to be a fake production.

    If what I think I see is correct, there appears to be a groove of sorts in the metal where the shell seems to be conveniently placed. If so, that would make me a little suspicious. That wouldn't mean the ring is fake, just enhanced with the shell to make a better story and price.
     
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  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Putting a magnet under the paper towel or under the moisture proof box would have no chance of "hitting" the ring, but would tell you if it is ferrous. Using a weak magnet like one of those refrigerator sticking thingies would further protect your object.
     
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  19. DonnaML

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  20. Henry112345

    Henry112345 Member

    Could you please provide some example to provide me to make a reference ? Thanks.
     
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