1944 S Fifty Centavos Philippines RPM?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by potty dollar 1878, Apr 8, 2022.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Honestly, clearer better lit photos would be helpful.
    My eyes are starting to need glasses.
    @Mark68 has a good point. The plume of smoke and O is a bit different.
     
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    The O and S are correct In person,and the volcano has the details and correct groves it has to much similarly to not be it.
     
  4. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    I'll try to get better photos the dark and spotted toning makes it really hard to photograph and causing confusion.
     
  5. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    I do suppose that more that one older 1907-1927 era die was reused in 1944. I also was going by what was presented on the PCGS site as the mule coin and it has a larger die chip in the 'S'. After a bit of rethinking, it is or was possible for the reused die to have a die chip progression that resulted in the larger die chip. The PCGS site does not show a 1907-1927 era coin for comparison. They do not show the reverse that may show any die markers like an RPM or die chips near the mintmark.
    I apologize for any confusion I caused in the understanding of what your coin is or may be.
     
  6. Mark68

    Mark68 Well-Known Member

  7. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Thats strange,you are correct about the(O) it does appear to be the normal 1944 obverse.But the hair does match for the other die and the volcano has the right details as well.The die chip in the S,so could this be a mixed die pairing?o_Oo_OI'm out and not home so can't take pictures.
     
  8. potty dollar 1878

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  9. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Here's another picture. IMG_20220409_183504.jpg
     
  10. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Actually it looks like a match for the mule but I'm not good with the tiny differences so I'll wait.
     
  11. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    The regular strike for this coin the volcano has a large block like appearance.This one is shallow and slanted all the way down which also matches the old design die(mule). IMG_20220409_190337.jpg IMG_20220409_190347.jpg
     
  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    You have that confirmation bug in ya. I think enough has been exposed about the Variety, For you to put it away and wait for fresh eyes.
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  14. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Ok I give up about the mule it's not it but what about attribution for the possible RPM?.
     
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  15. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Are you willing to spend a 100 dollars chasing a 10 dollar fact.
     
  16. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    It takes $100 to get something attributed?I'm not reffering to certification,it really costs that much to get it verified on variety Vista for example.
     
  17. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Oh no, I have no idea of the actual cost.
    Its just an expression of wasting your time. kind of like coin roll hunting a full box of cent only to find one 1910 cent. You know what I mean?
     
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  18. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Yes I know what you mean.I just have the feeling that it would be nice to find something undiscovered like this for example as possibly a new RPM.
     
  19. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    By all means do what you find interesting and exciting with your hobby.

    http://doubleddie.com/1801.html
    RPM Attribution Bulletin: Dr. Daniel Griffin, the RPM attributer for the Wexler RPM Files has asked me to announce that he has moved to Arkansas to start his Surgical Pathology Fellowship in Little Rock. His new address is: Dr. Daniel Griffin, 1502 Parham Pointe Dr. Apt. 11A Little Rock, AR 72204. Packages of RPMs and OMMs being sent for attribution should be sent to that address.
     
  20. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The RPM might be something to look into. I just don't know if the value is worth it.
     
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  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Hey. You tried.
     
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