Secret Marks on Coins

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  1. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    As many of you know, the Banknote Companies issued Postage Stamps with secret marks as a deterrent to counterfeiting. I suspect these exist on currency also. Has anyone found secret marks placed on our coins by Mint Engravers?
     
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  3. CoinCorgi

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  4. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Excellent! Will you please tell ALL OF US what you discovered and which coins they were on?
     
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  5. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Perhaps a freedom of information request of the Secret Service can answer this question.
     
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  6. Insider

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    @CoinCorgi "Will you please tell ALL OF US what you know about Mint made secret marks on coins and which coins they were on?"

    I doubt any of this information is left in public records as it was done a very long time ago. I'll bet that the marks on stamps were found by collector researchers.
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not that I am aware of, but I'm always willing to learn. :)
     
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  8. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    No. You figure it out.
     
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  9. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    If we post them they won't be secret anymore.
     
  10. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    The one that came to mind is the 1952 FS-901 Quarter.
     
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  11. Insider

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    All of us here should be very, very sad. One of our illustrious members indicated he finally might have some useful information to contribute...

    CoinCorgi, posted: "Yes."

    Sadly, we are left with only the usual very lame "fluff" with this nonsense:

    CoinCorgi, posted: "No. You figure it out."

    :rolleyes: :inpain: :( Fortunately, we are all very lucky these antics are tolerated on Coin Talk and I would not have it any other way as folks of all ages, intelligence, and knowledge, should have an outlet to be noticed :stinkyfeet: :spitoutdummy: and feel important in their own mind. :yawn:
     
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  12. Insider

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    What would that be?
     
  13. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

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  14. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Skip, could you please enlighten us? I honestly don’t know what to look for. I’ve heard that “hidden watermarking” was done to coins, as well as banknotes. However, I have no idea about where or of what variety they are. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, pretty please, please please please please please pulleze, por favor, bitte, per picaire, DO TELL US! ;)
     
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  15. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Interesting..
    @Insider
    I googled the following..

    secret marks placed on our coins by Mint Engravers?

    And one of the hits was the same asked back in 2019 on another forum called collectors universe..

    I'm assuming it was you?
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  16. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    As someone who collects IHC varieties, 1875 Snow-16 FS-801 Dot Cent came to mind pretty quickly. Supposedly that was added in an effort to catch a Mint employee suspected of pocketing coins. The dot is prominent enough to be identified even in low grade - there is a PCGS AG03 with a trueview on Coinfacts.

    That one is even listed in the Red Book, for... some reason.
     
  17. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    :facepalm: I forgot all about that. I just printed out the NN article to read to see what I revealed.

    THANKS!!!

    PS :facepalm::eggface: I see I promised a new column. Fourteen years later would be a good time! Think of all the folks who are no longer around to read the new one I'll write.
     
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  18. Phil's Coins

    Phil's Coins Well-Known Member

    In other words, you have NOTHING!
    Semper Fi
     
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  19. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Could be the case. While it may not actually be considered a secret mark; the thought has crossed my mind that the oh so subtle design changes we have continue to discover in the same US coin series over time may actually be anti-counterfeiting measures. Information the Mint shared exclusively with and only with the Secret Service. Probably not the case. But?
     
  20. Insider

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    Morgandude11, posted: "...could you please enlighten us? I honestly don’t know what to look for. I’ve heard that “hidden watermarking” was done to coins [That's interesting, who said that?} as well as banknotes. However, I have no idea about where or of what variety they are. [I'm ignorant on hidden watermarks except on our modern currency.]."
     
  21. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

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