I bid on Peter's coins and after the auction closed I recieved this email for a second chance to buy them, I also recieved a email for a $20 St. Gaudens that I hadn't bid on from the same guy saying that he was the seller. I sent this to spoof@ebay.com will see what happens if anything. eBay sent this message to ed dixon (bulldawg67357). Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay. Learn more. Response to Question about Item -- Respond Now eBay sent this message on behalf of an eBay member via My Messages. Responses sent using email will go to the eBay member directly and will include your email address. Click the Respond Now button below to send your response via My Messages (your email address will not be included). Response from uhidfsd Item: eBay Second Chance (8348201204) This message was sent while the listing was active. uhidfsd is the seller. I am the seller of the auction My Collection 100s of Half Dollars Slabs, Raw, Rolls-item 8345198414.The winning bidder didn't completed the transaction due some family commitments.This is an urgent sale. If you are interested to buy the item please let me whether you are interested in buying the item at your bid price negociable. Please let me know asap if you are still interested. I confirm that the transaction will pass through eBay. I'll be waiting for your answer. Best regards. Respond to this question in My Messages. Item Details Item name: eBay Second Chance Item number: 8348201204 End date: Nov-05-05 15:09:14 PST View item description: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8348201204&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1 Thank you for using eBay! http://www.ebay.com/ Marketplace Safety Tip Always remember to complete your transaction on eBay - it's the safer way to buy. Please do not offer to buy or sell this item through this form without completing the transaction on eBay. If you receive a response inviting you to transact outside of eBay, you should decline -- such transactions may be unsafe and are against eBay policy. Is this email inappropriate? Does it violate eBay policy? Help protect the community by reporting it. This email appears in the language of the eBay site where you are registered. Learn how you can protect yourself from spoof (fake) emails at: http://pages.ebay.com/education/spooftutorial This eBay notice was sent to edixon@cableone.net on behalf of another eBay member through the eBay platform and in accordance with our Privacy Policy. If you would like to receive this email in text format, change your notification preferences. See our Privacy Policy and User Agreement if you have questions about eBay's communication policies. Privacy Policy: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/privacy-policy.html User Agreement: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html Copyright © 2005 eBay, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are registered trademarks or trademarks of eBay, Inc.. eBay is located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125.
Sounds like what the Romanian trios did in the UK. They recently got caught after frauding over 100,000 pounds I believe...
I got it too...I wish I would have won the item but at last...I didn't! I also sent the note to the same place you did--- Speedy
Here is the story you will notice the input from Ebay LOL eBay fraudsters sentenced to jail Money transfer should not be for internet transactions, say police Three Romanians who conned eBay customers out of thousands of pounds have been sentenced to a total of eight years' imprisonment. The "cell" tricked customers into paying for £300,000 worth of fictitious goods which never arrived. The man said to be the gang's ringleader, Nicolae Cretanu, 30, of Forest Gate, London, was given a three and a half year term for the fraud. His wife Adriana, 23, and George Titar, 26, both got two and a half years. The couple advertised everything from non-existent cars to concert tickets and used 12 aliases and an accomplice to collect the payments. Their accomplice Titar, of Stratford, London, collected payments from money transfer shops. Don't use money transfer to send money to anybody who you don't know personally Chief Supt Nigel Mawer How fraudsters stole £300k The two-year scam was successful because buyers on eBay have to pay before they are sent their goods. People were told by email that they had been unsuccessful in their first bid but were offered a "second chance" to buy a similar item. But the goods they purchased never arrived and the trio managed to net at least £300,000 from the scam. The majority of the cash was sent back to the gang's accomplices in Romania in what the police described as a well-planned and sophisticated fraud. The racket was finally exposed after suspicious staff at money transfer firm Western Union alerted police. Essentially safe Chief Superintendent Nigel Mawer who led the operation said the fraud was operated by a "significant cell of Romanians operating in London". "We believe there were 3,000 victims of this fraud and this type of fraud is still continuing." He said that up to a £1 billion worth of fraud of this type took place in the UK a year. Titar was considered by the police as the gang's "foot soldier" And he issued a warning to potential internet auction customers: "Don't use money transfer to send money to anybody who you don't know personally. "It is not designed for that and Western Union support that and work with us on that," he said. Chief Supt Mawer added that the cell's accomplices in Romania had been arrested and were awaiting trial. He stressed that internet auctions were essentially safe as long as customers followed the "good guidance" on how to buy safely. In this case people were duped into not following those rules, he said. Responding to the case, eBay issued a statement saying it was sorry that anyone had suffered through their association with eBay but pointed out the transactions had not taken place on the internet site itself. The criminals used the site to gather information and initially to contact their victims but carried out the fraud separately eBay spokesman "As soon as we were made aware of them we took action. By working with the police we helped ensure that the prosecutions were successful, showing that crime does not pay on eBay. A spokesman said: "The criminals used the site to gather information and initially to contact their victims but carried out the fraud separately beyond the protected environment we provide. "Payments were made using Western Union money transfers, which both eBay and Western Union strongly recommend against. eBay says it encourages users to report anything suspicious "In fact, eBay.com in the U.S. has banned payment via Western Union and eBay.co.uk will soon be following suit." As well as pursuing the gang's "cohorts in Romania", Chief Supt Mawer pledged to pursue asset confiscation procedures against the gang with a view to creating a compensation fund for their victims. The sentencing comes after the trio pleaded guilty at Middlesex Guildhall Crown Court to conspiracy to obtain fraud by deception and money laundering earlier this year. Their arrests in May were prompted by an investigation by Scotland Yard's specialist economic crime unit. De Orc
There are a couple of good ways to protect yourself from fraudulent "Second Chance Offers" on eBay. When a seller offers a legitimate second chance offer it is a new ebay listing. What eBay does is it lists the item on eBay meaning that it has an 10 digit auction number like any other eBay auction. EBay gives the auction a "Buy it now" price equal to the highest bid of the non-winning bidder who will be receiving the offer and then sends an email to the person that the seller is making the offer to. That email lists the auction number, as well as linking to the second chance auction. To protect yourself you can: 1) When you receive a second chance offer, write down the auction number from the email that eBay sends you. Then open up a new web page and go to www.ebay.com. Enter the auction number that you'd written down into the search field. If it is a legitimate offer you will then go to the auction, if it is not legitimate then it won't come up properly. 2) After you receive an offer then you can go to the original listing page and ask the original seller a question through eBay requesting information on the "Second Chance Offer" They will usually be able to tell you if the offer is legitimate or not. 3) Or you can go to your eBay preferences and change your settings so that you never receive Second chance offers, then if you ever receive one you will know it's a spoof. Just like everything else in this hobby, a little education can save you getting into an embarassing situation. Hope this helps.
My experience with sending this stuff to eBay is they are slow, up to a week, if you are seeking a return reply whether the offer is real, or not. Not good.
I've already gotten a handfull of notes from ebay telling me that it was fraud and not to do anything and then that they have already taken action in the way that they can.....maybe they did! Speedy
