2016 Retained Cud w/ Die Rotation

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  1. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    Awesome coin here finally added into my shield cent error collection. Awesome counterclockwise 95° die rotation as well enjoy!
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  3. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  5. ifthevamzarockin

    ifthevamzarockin Well-Known Member

  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Helluva find!
    Theres some really cool seperation on the 1.
     
  7. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    Darn, another P mint error! Meow cannot get paws on P mint coins for CRH. In the rolls Meow gets from local banks are 95% plus of D mint issues. Meow always hopes the Denver guys somehow get sloppy and create things for Meow to find.
     
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  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    @SensibleSal66
    It's a Cud when the piece of the worn Die finally breaks off and leaves a void so when it strikes the blank planchet the metal rises into the void. But when the piece is retained on the die meaning it hasn't fallen off then you will see the rim to rim die crack.
     
  9. paddyman98

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    @Gorham_Collector

    I just figured out who you are! Hello MV ;)
    Just saw your post over at FB :watching:
     
  10. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    now it’s my turn
     
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  11. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    The offset of the die face is sick
     
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  12. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

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    This is a retained cud and not a rim to rim die crack due to the fact of the offset of the die you see it in the date at 1 and the T in trust. So that means that part of the die has broke complexity and is being held in place by the collar now if it broke off it would create a cud. And since the broken die crack is going from one end to another which would be the home for a cud and is offset you get the retained cud
     
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  13. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

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  14. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    Can we see a mirror to that penny please? I usually can pick up a rotation in a 2x2 . Your penny is slightly lower at 7 oclock when u flip it, the penny in the 2x2 should be closer at 11 oclock to the edge. A mirror would be greatly appreciated. Are your cents in a diamond shape 2x2?
     
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  15. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    It’s a progressive issue until it catastrophically fails. Rim to rim crack will probably be a retained cud/die break. And eventually a cud outright. The specimen where Lincoln has a tie’ comes to mind. The progressive stages capture the issue in development.
     
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  16. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    I cut the edge so you know how the rotation looks when flipped ups used down where the shield would normally be facing up
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  17. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    Sweet thank you
     
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  18. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    Still yet to find a good rotated die
     
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  19. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Lincoln's poor nose.
     
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