Is this Trade Dollar authentic?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BLcoins, Oct 27, 2005.

  1. BLcoins

    BLcoins New Member

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    What do you think?
     
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  3. Charlie32

    Charlie32 Coin Collector

    It looks like a counterfeit to me. I have a counterfeit one that looks similar to yours. Here's a picture of mine.

    Charlie
     

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  4. BLcoins

    BLcoins New Member

    I was going to send it in to get graded but if its a fake it would be a waste of time and money.
     
  5. Charlie32

    Charlie32 Coin Collector

    If you can weigh it, it should weigh 27.22 grams, if it is real. I think that if it was authentic, it would have some luster left for such a high grade.

    Charlie
     
  6. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I don't know...I don't see the signs of a Cast copy....but that isn't the only way they were faked...
    Weigh it and see what it is....I'm not sure but it may be real.

    Speedy
     
  7. youngcollector

    youngcollector U.S. coin collecter

    Im not sure, It looks like there is a little bit of toning on the bottom of the reverse, which would be a good sign, but that might just be the photo.
     
  8. 9roswell

    9roswell Senior Member

  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I don't see anything in the pictures that jumps out at me screaming fake, but the picture isn't the best and there are always limitations on making jdgements from photos. I will say that I can't recall having seen a fake with a tall S mintmark before. I also think that you should follow hrough wih Charlie32's suggestion and weigh the coin. More than 90% of the commonly encountered fake trade dollars are significantly underweight.
     
  10. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    I'd like to see a closer view of the feather ends of the arrows in the eagle's claws.

    I tried blowing up that section of the posted picture, but the resolution isn't high enough to see the arrows clearly.
     
  11. BLcoins

    BLcoins New Member

    I weighed it and it was 28.0 grams but that includes the flip box and staples in it.

    Here's better and larger pictures of it.

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  12. BLcoins

    BLcoins New Member

    Thanks for the help guys
     
  13. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Wow a nice one there. I honestly don't know though, I don't really collect US coins so I could be horribly wrong :p

    One thing that bugs me is in the word "Liberty" especially the letter "i" - it just seems that it was chipped off. Another aspect is with the woman's right leg, and where you can see another crack. I wonder if the problem is with the die, or it was meant to be like that.

    P.S for others who are viewing the picture on imageshack - you can click on the picture to make it even larger. :)
     
  14. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Take it out of the flip---or take another flip and put the same number of staples in it...weigh it and see what happens...

    Speedy
     
  15. 2coins

    2coins New Member

    Just by the strike of it alone, I would say a fine EX-fine to AU-50 coin!!"Original", just my opinion......
     
  16. BLcoins

    BLcoins New Member

    Thanks guys. I just got done selling it to a guy for 200 dollars. I told him that there was a chance it was fake but he said he thought it was real. If it was AU-50, I might have gotten more for it but 200 is twice what I paid for it.
     
  17. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I think you did fine!

    Most of the time when I have a coin that is faked I try to send it off to ANACS before I sell it but with this coin I think I would have been selling it without the slabbing....I'm pretty sure its real!

    Speedy
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The weight is close enough. Usually the fakes weigh in the neighborhood of 22.5 to 23 grams. A real one weighs 27.2 grams and a 2X2 with staples is usually around 1 - 1.5 grams. 28 grams is way more than the typical fake plus 2X2 would weigh.

    I just looked at the new pics. Smooth fields, sharp crisp denticals, no pits, or pimples around the stars. I'm better than 95% convinced it's real.
     
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