CoinTalks BEST CENT GRADERS (from pics)

Both graded by PCGS. If anyone feels the need to call out a BBag, feel free,, I think I have one more "genuine" laying around that I'll toss in at some point in the future. Also, let's incorporate the BN, RB and RD requirement. 2pt deduction for each incremental miss, meaning anyone calls a RD a BN and it's 4pts, RB vs. BN is 2pts.. simple 'nough.

Will try to update each weekend or so, and the post another couple... Also, if any of ya'll have one or two out there, go ahead and post those too if you'd like, I'll incorporate those results also.... but for CENT's only 1909 to date....

This weeks candidates are a 1914 and 1915-D.... what'd they grade ?
Enjoy these pics too..ha.

Here are the current rankings. Best to worst,, it's takes at least four guessed grades to get ranked. The numerical ranking is equivalent to the average points missed (absolute value).

DUKE KAVANAGH
2.5
RLM'S CENT
3.75
GDJMSP
6.25
MARK H
7.5
MIKENOODLE
8.25
BORGOVAN
8.75

Here are the unranked members.. in no particular order.
2 CENT RICK5
ABE7.5BGCOINS5COINKEEPER1COPPERWIRED7.67LDHAIR0MPCUSA0SHOEWRECKY10BADTHAD4SHAWN1517

 

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Sorry, but 3 of your 4 pix are out of focus - particularly the 1914. Try cleaning your focusing eye.

 

63 bn and 64 rb do not laff...lol My first attemt to grade US cents...lol

 

XF45 on the 15D and VF30 on the 14

 

I need better resolution and focus on those coins to grade them

 

Yeah, you need better pics. One can't tell if it's wear or if it's just a blurry picture...can't see luster, nuthin'.

Unless you want to change your thread to "CoinTalks BEST CENT GRADERS (from poor pics)"?

I'll wait until better pics are available before making a guess.

-LTB

 

1915-d AU50
1914 XF 40-cleaned

 

Sit it out if you want to. Better pics will probably come with next weeks post, but part of the thread and test (if you want to coin it that way), is to express your ability to work up an approximation with less than perfect pictures (which is generally what I produce,, even with my wifes $$ camera)... Maybe I will change the name to "poor" pictures, although I can't say I've ever seen any picture or set of multiple pictures that "ever" correctly presented the a coin in the same manner as having it in hand does. Anyway, sitting it out is ok,, or pretent your hunting on ebay and came across these, what would you pay for them based on an approximate grade you culled from the pics... and what grade would you venture upon them.......

I can tell everyone that these were taken under diffused lighting,,, so any luster will be hard to identify even with good pictures,, unless it's obvious or your good at it.

 

I would not buy them with only those pictures. Out of focus pictures can hide all kinds of crap.

 

The 15 D looks MS to me 62-63 BN.
The 14 looks a little off to me in color maybe cleaned or "genuine" for some reason AU details. I like the post as it is a skill of sorts to read digital pictures online. Without practice there is no confidence and that makes it hard to enjoy a coin purchase.

 

Wow blurry coin pictures and thru the plastic holders means more of a guess but I'll give it a try.

15 looks pretty nice there's hits on his lapel and on the wheat stalks and some funny color line across his head but as long as that scratch is on the plastic I'll go:
MS64BN

14 obverse pic is really blurry but I think I see full wheats so I'll say MS and hope the scratch's are on the plastic. But I don't like the dings on his face and the color is off and a weak die but with the "diffused" lighting I'll go with:
14 = MS62RB

And I think this kind of thread might be a real help to getting some experience at grading by seeing others opinions. I always like when Doug chimes in and types his and his explanations.

 

The 15-D looks to me to be 64-RB. well in all fairness, it looks like I'd say brown, but the luster is again hard o judge from pics, so my first impression is MS64-RB.

The 1914 is nearly impossible to grade from those pics.

 

I'll say 15-d MS63 BN and the 14 AU50 RDBN.

 

I will guess...

1915 - 65BN
1914 - 62RB

-LTB

 

Hey Doug,, I agree. Establishing someone's true "in hand" grading ability based on pictures posted in some thread is not ideal....

The point is to provide everyone an opportunity to have some fun,, maybe hone thier skills abit on the few good pictures, and learn alot about how to judge cents on bad pictures.

Some of my best takes on the 'bay were those posted with pics much much worse than the one's I'll post, and some close to what I'll post. These auctions generally go for a discount, and the forum members will be well served to learn how to judge the different ways poor pictures can hide a coins grade.

So the ability being measure here is:
1 - Grading (yes, you have to know how to grade what you can see, or think you can see).
and
2 - Ability read a picture,,
- to fill in details you can't see based on a subset of what you can see (if any),,,
- to exclude things you can see which may not really be there....

 

From these photos even for fun or a guess I would never attempt to go on record with a grade.
The first coin could be AU-50 to MS-63 Red, RB, or Brown, who knows!
The second could be VF-35 to AU-55 with questional color at best and most likely a horrible strike.
The problem lies with the photos and that they are cents with some detail but the color really looks kind of "off" on both with "less than any luster" if put to the test, no, never mind it's fiction from here on out.
I would not buy either one from photos provided.

 

1915-D MS-65 RB
1914 - MS-61 cleaned

 

Hmmm...the '15 looks good (especially the reverse) but the pic makes it look like Abe's got a goatee haha. The '14 is hard to tell, I agree it's blurry...but here is my take anyway:

1915 - MS62
1914 - AU58

 

I don't mind the practise. The first is 62RB and the second is a 60BN, but it is genuine if that is the real color. For some reason the obverse color seems off in the picture - now is it the picture or the coin?