Kinda shocked!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by panzerman, Mar 26, 2022.

  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I had bid on a MS AV Solidus of Anthemius and lost it to higher bidder.

    Today, I got my Roma Invoice and to my utter surprise I was now the proud owner of a Solidus from this Emperor.:D

    Western Roman Empire
    AV Solidus ND (467AD) Rome Mint 4.37g. 21mm. 12h
    obv:
    DN ANTHEMIVS PFAVG
    Helmeted/ pearl-diademed/ cuirassed bust facing/ holding spear/ shield
    SALVS REIPVBLICAE
    Anthemius and Leo I in Military Attire/ standing/ facing/ holding spears and globus cruciger between them

    RM in centre/ COMOB in exergue
    RIC X 2813
    Depeyrot 5916
    Lacam pl. CXVII Class III var 1
    DOC 915
    Mare Nostum Hoard 23926.1.11_1.jpg
     
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  3. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    Two hard late Roman solidii for the collection! Happy for you, man. Good thing gardening season is around the corner.
     
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  4. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks svessian:) Man. I wished I was living in Germany or Norway/ many reasons first I would have a much cooler climate to work in. Here in Summer, even without ever wearing a shirt its "sweaty hot" and miserable. Plus I would love to have the stronger "euro"/ it costs me a fortune to convert our worthless money into your euros/ third....in Europe you have more chances of finding hoards of gold/ silver coins.:D
    John
     
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  5. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    You'd also receive your orders from EU and UK a lot faster.
     
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  6. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    Hope you don’t have to pay import tax on them. I have to pay 20 something percent if I buy a coin from an area where it hasn’t been circulating in the economy. Somehow that always come as an unpleasant surprise….

    I brushed the porch floor with sandpaper today, and blessed the sunny 7 degree celsius day.
     
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  7. Hrefn

    Hrefn Well-Known Member

    The Basiliscus and Marcus solidus was truly a coup. I was traveling during the auction, or I might have tried for it myself. IMO you got a great deal on that.
    The Anthemius reverse is similar to my example with the standing figures much better struck on yours. Seeing as both coins are from the Rome mint, and were struck over a relatively short period of time, it is curious how different they are. Placement of the legends differ on both the obverse and reverse. Your emperors have a diadem or taenia on their foreheads, while mine have a periscope. My emperors are adapted for amphibious warfare. upload_2022-3-26_12-28-3.jpeg upload_2022-3-26_12-29-5.jpeg
     
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  8. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    John, Congrats on scoring this very rare solidus of Anthemius :happy:! Coming from a documented hoard gives it greater importance ;). Anthemius spent most of time fighting barbarians & was murdered by his barbarian general Ricimer. The portrait on this coin is very crude, suggesting the Rome mint must have been staffed by barbarian craftsmen at this time....
     
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  9. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    Very nice. I was impressed by the Basiliscus, but this one is even cooler in my opinion. Rome mint and one of the last emperors.....

    The celator goofed slightly on the trajectory of the spear (left-right).
     
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  10. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    55,000 pounds for the Attalus medallion seems like a relative bargain.
     
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  11. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    No, they send it via Royal Mail/ NO VALUE:D
     
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  12. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks!
    I never noticed that:shame:
    John
     
  13. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    :dead::yack::yack::yack::yack::yack::yack::yack::yack: (closest to ROFL that I can find).
     
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  14. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    Hey, at least it wasn't FedEx.
     
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  15. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks Al!
    I once had a chance on a Solidus from Anthemius in EF/ it ended up going for 14K
    This one is on sale for 15K/ second sold in 2014 for 20K. However the Basiliscus & Marcus is much rarer. dsc_0223_2_1.jpg dsc_0232_3_1.jpg lf - 2022-03-26T160743.841.jpg dsc_0223_2_1.jpg dsc_0232_3_1.jpg lf - 2022-03-26T160743.841.jpg lf - 2022-03-26T160803.797.jpg lf - 2022-03-26T160803.797.jpg
     
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  16. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    I wonder what kind of vessel would have been carting around 400+ solidi? Given the presence of a few western solidi I'm guessing a wealthy merchant's ship?
     
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  17. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

    That is certainly odd o_O seeing as you didn't WIN the coin.

    I would be asking lots of questions before i even considered buying the coin.

    Is it possible to check the bidding to see who WON the auction ?
    I would be very interested in finding out if that person bid me up & then didn't pay for starters ;)
     
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  18. sand

    sand Well-Known Member

    @panzerman Congratulations.
    Luckily, you still wanted to pay, for the coin.
    However, it makes me wonder. Because you lost the auction for the coin, would you legally be obligated, to pay for the coin, if you didn't want the coin?
     
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  19. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I think I am super happy that things turned out in my favor. The coin is part of the famed Mare Nostum Hoard and featured in a writeup. Could have been a glitch in the auction/ I bid 3200 was leading green on screen/ then a red sign outbid/ but next bid was at 3400. So, I think it was a glitch on my screen. No matter, I will TAKE that coin. I have seen these go way over 15K in MS. There seem to be lots of diff. types according to Wildwinds. Like Al stated, this is probably a product of Rome Mint with German employees learning the trade.....
    I am way more surprised at winning that Basiliscus & Marcus type coin for a paltry 2K. The more common Basiliscus alone goes for more. I can only imagine what both coins would have realized in a Heritage Signature Auction....
     
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  20. Egry

    Egry Well-Known Member

    Great pick up @panzerman. I was watching them very closely but had my targets set on the Gordian II, also snagged the Pertinax.

    I just received my invoice from Roma, it’s going to hurt.
     
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  21. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    Given some of the bloated auction results of late they do seem like relative bargains.
     
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