Not of Troy but from Trier: An attractive Helena

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  1. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    Here is my latest acquisition, a late Roman bronze coin minted at Trier under Constantine the Great. It shows the emperor's mother Helena. Christian tradition credits Helena with discovering the True Cross during a journey to Jerusalem in 327 and arranging for the construction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. She is revered as a saint.

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    Helena, Roman Empire, AE3, 327–328 AD, Trier mint. Obv: FL HELENA AVGVSTA; bust of Helena, wearing necklace and mantle, r. Rev: SECVRITAS REIBUBLICE; Securitas, draped, standing l., raising robe with r. hand and lowering branch with l. hand, in exergue, PTRE. 19mm, 2.88g. Ref: RIC VII Treveri 508.

    I paid more for this coin than I would usually consider fair for an LRB. Can you see why?

    Please post your coins of Helena and/or exceptionally attractive late Roman bronze coins!
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I'm gonna say you bought it because of the hair style & clothing? It's a wonderful coin & portrait.

    My only one of her.

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    Helena (324 - 330 A.D)
    Æ3
    O: FL HELENA AVGVSTA, Draped bust right.
    R: SECVRITAS-REIPVBLICE, Securitas standing left.
    Siscia Mint, 5th offcina
    19mm
    2.8g
    RIC 218
     
  4. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    Nice addition, @Orielensis.
    Your coin has a clear and wonderful Helena hairstyle. Mine is not as sharply-defined, but has some silvering. :)

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  5. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Beautiful!

    Her coinage is consistently well made - it was a good time for Roman coinage.

    Mine is from the Rome mint - despite the problems I found that it had a very distinctive portrait, depicting a woman in her 70s, rather than a youthful idealization
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  6. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Very nice! I seem to recall the reason the cross is venerated is due to her supposedly finding a piece of it.
    I do enjoy the differences in hairstyle in some of these:
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  7. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Would it be because instead of the regular drapery, this bust type shows the imperial mantle with decorations?
     
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  8. sky92880

    sky92880 Well-Known Member

    Is it because of the 3 turret crown on top of the head?
     
  9. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Orelensis, Nice score :happy:! Helena has that "eyes to Heaven" gaze so often seen on the coinage of Constantine ;). Pictured below is the last Constantine nummus added to my collection.
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  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    There was a time I was buying a Helena from each mint but never finished the project and sold a couple of the ones I did not like as much. I never had a Trier. If you rotate my photo of the Rome coin you might claim it has "eyes to Heaven" but the OP coin could be rotated a bit clockwise and look 'normal' to me. Every mint had a distinctive portrait for her (and for Fausta) even more than for the male portraits. If I were into late Roman and set filling, I would consider it a worthy goal to have a full set.
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  11. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    The Siscia coin is a real beauty, Doug.

    I still haven’t found my Helena. I like this one, but I would like one better:

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    I have several high grade late Roman bronzes. But here are two that give me much joy, although they are only good VFs:

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    Licinius I, 308-324 AD

    BI follis, Alexandria 308-10 AD

    Obverse: IMP C LIC LICINNIVS P F AVG, laureate head right

    Reverse: GENIO IMPERATORIS, Genius wearing modes, holding patera and cornucopia,

    left; K - P, right, ALE in exergue. Officin: A (1)

    Reference: RIC VI 101b, 105b, 107b, 121b

    Size: 23,9mm Weight: 6,48 g, 7 h. Conservation: VF

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    Constantius Gallus, 351-54 AD BI Maiorina, Constantinople 351-52 AD.

    Obverse: D N FL CL CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES; Bust of Constantius Gallus, bareheaded, draped, cuirassed, right

    Reverse: FEL TEMP RE PARATIO; Soldier, helmeted, draped, cuirassed, advancing left, spearing fallen horseman with right hand and wearing shield on left arm; shield on ground to right; horseman wearing pointed cap, facing soldier, extending left arm. Γ in left field. Mint mark: CONSθ.

    Reference: RCV 18983, RIC VIII 107

    Size: 23mm Weight: 5.4 g Conservation: gVF

    The heavy maiorina of Constantius Gallus is not a coin you run into all the time.
     
  12. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    @Orielensis ....Very nice coin!
    Helena AE3 (19mm, 3.30g). Struck 326-327 AD
    Obv- FL HELENA AVGVSTA, Diademed and draped bust right.
    Rev- SECVRITAS REI PVBLICE, Securitas standing left, holding olive branch in extended right hand.raising hem of robe with left hand. Mintmark dot ΓSIS dot. RIC VII Siscia 204; Sear 16609.

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  13. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

  14. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    This Helena was a Christmas present from my parents 20 years ago or so. It was attributed a long time ago when I did more wild guessing than I do now, so it might need some tweaking:

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    Helena Æ Follis
    (328-329 A.D.)
    Siscia Mint (Series 4)

    FL HELENA AVGVSTA, diademed, mantled bust right / SECVRITAS REIPVBLICE, Securitas standing left, with branch and raising hem of robe, ЄSIS double-crescent in exergue
    RIC Siscia 218; Sear 16610.
    (3.19 grams / 19 mm)
    Xmas parents c. 2000
     
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  15. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    Only 1 Helena in my collection.
    I try to add all the affordable emperors and empresses and not being a LRB specialist, Helena was missing.
    Got this Helena, countless better examples are on the market but this was in the (very modest) budget I wanted to allocate for one of her coins
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    Helena. Augusta AD 324-330. Antioch
    Follis Æ
    19 mm, 3,71 g
    From the Tareq Hani collection
    RIC VII Antioch 82
    Date Range: AD 327 - AD 329
    Obv: FL HELENA – AVGVSTA, bust of Helena, wearing necklace and mantle, right / Rev: SECVRITAS – REIPVBLICE, Securitas, draped, standing left, raising robe with right hand and lowering branch with left hand. MintMark: -/-//•SMANTS

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    As for attractive LRBs, the one I like the most is this Constans, bought in the same auction.

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    (real color of the coin is something in between)


    Constans AD 337-350. Siscia
    Follis Æ
    19 mm, 2,06 g
    RIC VIII Siscia 232
    Date Range: AD 348 - AD 350
    Obv: D N CONSTA-NS P F AVG, bust of Constans, pearl-diademed, draped, cuirassed, right / Rev: FEL•TEMP•REPARATIO, Phoenix, radiate, standing right on rocky mound. Mintmark ΓSIS•


    This was another LRB I wanted a lot and was very happy for winning it. Although the obverse leaves something to be desired, the reverse is in great condition and, in my opinion, one of the most artistic designs in the period.
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    Constantine I the Great AD 306-337. Constantinople
    Follis Æ
    18 mm, 3,25 g
    AD 328-329
    CONSTANTI-NVS MAX AVG, bust of Constantine I, rosette-diademed, draped, cuirassed, right / CONSTANTINI-ANA DAFNE, Victory, winged, draped, seated left on cippus, head right, holding palm in each hand; before her, trophy; at foot of trophy, kneeling captive, head turned, being spurned by Victory
    MintMark: A/-//CONS dot; OfficinaMark: ∈
    RIC VII Constantinople 38 note
     
  16. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    RIC mistakenly describes the reverse as palm in each hand but it is actually a palm in left and laurel in right.
     
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  17. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    Thank you - correcting my catalogue.
     
  18. Jims Coins

    Jims Coins Well-Known Member

    Bronze Coin (AE3) minted at Nicomedia for HELENA, Mother of CONSTANTINE I, The Great between 325 – 326 A.D. Obv. FL.HELENA.AVGVSTA. Diad. & draped bust right. Rev. SECVRITAS.REPVBLICE. Securitas stg. l., lowering branch, raising robe with r. hand. RCS #3908. RICVII #129 pg.621. DVM #3. LRBC #1091.


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  19. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    my only Helena

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    Helena
    A.D. 318- 319
    18mm 3.1g
    HELENA N F; draped bust right.
    REV: eight rayed ✶ in laurel wreath.
    in ex. TSA
    RIC VII Thessalonica 48

    Ex-Failmezger
     
  20. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Here, Helena is wearing a band-like diadem decorated with what appears to be various jewels:

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    Helena, Augusta AD 324-329, issued under Constantine I.
    Roman billon Æ 3 centenionalis, 2.97 g, 18.3 mm.
    Nicomedia, AD 325-326
    Obv: FL HELENA AVG, diademed and mantled bust right with necklace.
    Rev: SECVRITAS REIPVBLICE, Securitas standing left, lowering branch, raising robe with right hand; ΝΜΓ in exergue.
    Refs: RIC 129; RCV 16620; LRBC-I 1100; Cohen 12.
     
  21. Edessa

    Edessa Well-Known Member

    Helena, Augusta, AD 324-328/330. Æ Follis (18.5mm, 3.68g, 6h). Thessalonica mint, 3rd officina. Struck AD 324. Obv: Diademed and draped bust right. Rev: Securitas standing left, holding olive branch in extended right hand; SMTSГ. Ref: RIC VII 134. Good Very Fine, green and brown patina. From the John L. Cowan Collection, purchased from Mike R. Vosper, 25 May 2011. Ex CNG eAuction 469 (3 Jun 2020), Lot 539.

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