Oh Crap... won a bid I never expected to win... 1909 s @$150...

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  1. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    saw and hit him with just that this morning "stock photos".. sent him a simple e-mail... "are those stock photos?" and recieved a refund 2hrs later... Hmmmmmm
     
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  3. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

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  4. ifthevamzarockin

    ifthevamzarockin Well-Known Member

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  5. TheNickelGuy

    TheNickelGuy Well-Known Member

    About 30-35 years ago I was asked to help sell a huge hoard of coins.
    Most were rolls of coin that were wrapped in the early 60's and well before. I do believe there were numerous original unsearched rolls. We didn't even open most. Many were uncirculated same year rolls, probably from mint sewn bags.
    I still think back on the couple hundred rolls of silver dollars and many half dollar rolls. Oh what fun it would be to have that opportunity. I had no say in what happened to the coins and eventually I was phased out of the picture. I do believe the owner got ripped off royal by a lesser trusted coin buyer.
    Largest coin hoard I ever saw.
     
  6. terky

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  7. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I hope you get lucky, but sellers have been using this scam for a long time.
    They put a 1908 or 1909 IHP ender on a roll with the hopes it's an S.
    In your case they buy old looking paper rolls, put enders on, and fill the middle with worthless stuff. The VDB will be a P as Furry said, and while the 1909-S is certainly a good coin, the condition is poor, and the other coins in roll might not yield much.
    Anyone who had an unsearched roll with a 1909-S is going to open it and look. But stranger things have happened.
    I just saw ifthevamzarockin's post. This seller seems shady to me.
    You say you won the bid at $150. The same picture was used for a $300 sale.
     
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  8. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    I didn't buy one of these rolls, but I did buy a $10.00 roll from another seller.
    On mine they stated they were "Vintage Stamped" I'm pretty sure they were recently stamped using a "Vintage" design on brand new paper machine wrappers.
    Now the roll I got didn't have the possible RARE end coins.
    What I got in the roll wasn't bad if a person was just starting to build a Lincoln collection, but it for sure wasn't a vintage un-searched roll of coins!
    Their coin rolling machine rolls them tighter than I've ever seen a roll of coins, I tried to un-crimp one and and push the coins out, NOPE! not possible, not even one coin would come out, I had to totally rip the wrapper apart.
    Not "Vintage" for sure. It was all wheat cents.
     
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  9. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Think positive be positive from the looks of it you are about even now, the rest are icing on the cake! I'm excited for you good luck.
     
  10. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    I guess we'll never know if that 09S was a VDB.
    Or do we now know for sure? ;)
     
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  11. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Okay, so this didn't pay off, but after reading most of the entries, I became aware of how many Dudley Downers are sure you were taken. Right up to you saying he refunded your money, I was hoping that you actually received an old S.F. roll full of 1909 cents. Of course the fact they were worn so much, told me that probably wasn't going to happen, but still, I was thinking positive.
     
  12. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Why would there be a full roll of 09 centa floating around?
    Especially when they didn't roll coins back then.
    He's lucky he got an easy refund. People who have been around here long enough should know this is a scam.
     
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  13. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    I recently made a newbie mistake. I was looking at some Morgans on ebay and found what looked like a wrapped set of Morgans in uncirculated coins. I made two mistakes. I trusted the picture and I thought the selling price was for the whole roll.
    I also didn't see that the seller would not give refunds. I paid with Paypal. My bank account hasn't been charged yet. I did another dumb thing. I looked at how many sales he had and he had over 80,000 sales. I thought that was great, until I looked to see how many problem feedbacks he got and there are many. Anyone know about jeffscoins?
     
  14. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    Well, the way I see it this seller owes you at LEST a decent condition 1909-S Lincoln cent, and at lest one 09 (?) VDB and a roll of 48 other Wheat cents!
    When you get that roll don't except LESS!
     
  15. mlov43

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    Can I just mention this point how cool it is of the mods to let slide the "Oh Crap..." in the title of this thread?
     
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  16. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here's the logic if this deal really was random.

    The seller buys a roll of 1909-S cents in low grade. He buys another roll of 1909-VDB cents in low grade. Then he buys 48 rolls of wheat cents. He mixes them all together and grabs out random coins to make 50 rolls that he sells for $150 each. The trouble is you won't have the 1909-S on one end and the "VDB" on the other. Do you think he would get very many of these rolls to stick if he showed them on eBay with the marque coins showing and then delivered rolls without them showing?

    More likely, he salts the ends of the rolls with the marque coins and has random wheat cents in the middle. He has $60 coin on one end and $4 coin on the other with 48 Wheat Cents in the middle. The whole thing is worth $70 if it has a tail wind. Not a bad return on $150 after you take out the eBay cut, of course.

    Like Mr. Fields said, "Not a chance." And I though that lottery type sales were not allowed on eBay.

    There is no such thing as a random, "never searched," roll of Lincoln Cents from this era.
     
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  17. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Tongue in cheek comment.
     
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  18. Mickey in PDX

    Mickey in PDX Active Member

    Wow! That is a cool story. Wish I had seen it on here back when you posted it. I love those kind of errors; US coin on a foreign planchet from some such coin the mint was striking for another country. Just wow.
     
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  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    NO WAY. I’m stoked for you
     
  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I’m hoping it’s a full roll and I get to see them all
     
  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yeah you haters
     
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