What do you think this 1917 s obverse would grade and potentiall value?

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Newbee03, Mar 18, 2022.

  1. Newbee03

    Newbee03 Well-Known Member

    I found it coin roll hunting just looking for a possible grade and value and if I should get it graded I was thinking it was at least a fine 15? Any thoughts appreciated received_980393875951817~2.jpeg received_1693413351009432~4.jpeg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Nope.

    Worth $20.00 - $27.00

    You need to show a better picture of the mint mark.
     
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  4. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I'd go with a fine 15 as long as there's a full rim on the reverse at 9-10K. Hard to tell by your pics. But no to the cost of slabbing.
     
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  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Nice low mintage coin. The surfaces have a nice look.
     
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  6. Newbee03

    Newbee03 Well-Known Member

    Ok so Im confused also I'm new to coin collecting.why are you saying its a 20 to 27 dollar coin when pcgs and ngc have even a poor1 valued at around 40 I'm just curious If this value listings isn't Right
     
  7. Newbee03

    Newbee03 Well-Known Member

    Thank you got it 2 days ago for 50 cents so I can't complain
     
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  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    In VG it's a $100 coin. I think the coin is better than VG but the images make it tough to grade. Try imaging the coin out of the holder.
     
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  9. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    NGC and PCGS price guides are pretty overrated.For the best price estimate I suggest looking through sold examples of your coin on ebay.In similar or exact condition your coin is in and a estimated price range by averaging the numbers out.
     
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  10. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    The values are overstated, but also remember the values they attribute to the coin is in their slab. Cost of grading is usually around $50-$60 when you take into consideration Grading Fee plus Shipping and Insurance Cost (Both ways).

    The general rule of thumb (for me) is the coin needs to be worth around $150-$200 plus to be considered for grading. I don't have a lot of high value coins and the one I did get graded was a borderline Vf/Ef Australian coin $350 in VF, $700+ in Ef. It graded in at Ef, so was $60 well spent.
     
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  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    They're actually not bad benchmark for their market, that is to say, with their label slapped on the coin.
     
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  12. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Also, PCGS and NGC prices are for coins already graded in their respective holders...not raw. Don't think this Walker is realistically any better than about G4. Recommend investing in a basic/current "Red Book"...spiral edition is easy/handy...especially good for beginners to read/study the basic/limited grading criteria for each coin variety plus photos, and will give some quick indications of price ranges when you find something. More advanced comes later...but the Red Book is the place to start for basic U.S. coins plus lots of interesting/educational numis history.
     
  13. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    It would really help if you posted your photos FULL IMAGE so we could better evaluate them.

    I hate to beat a dead horse, but if I haven't already posted you this, please read it.
    For the best results, you should post "in focus," FULL IMAGE photos (after you upload your photo, two buttons appear: Thumbnail and Full Image, click Full Image and your photo appears full size on your post and are easily enlarged by clicking on it). Photograph coins on neutral backgrounds like black, grey, or white. Crop out superfluous background so just the coin shows (you can use https://www.remove.bg for free), and post photos with correct orientation so members don't have to turn their computer in some awkward fashion to view it properly. While it isn’t always necessary, it is nice to show both the obverse and reverse, even if your question is just about one side. Members can often give more valuable information having both sides to evaluate. Add close ups of areas you have questions about and make your questions as definitive as possible so we know what you are asking for. And try to have the best lighting possible to show the most favorable photo of the coin. Hope this helps in the future. Good luck.
     
  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'd like to see better (brighter and more in focus) images, but I'm inclined to agree that it's Fine. I also agree that it's not worth grading; it's not that rare a date, not a lot of deceptive fakes floating around, so you'd have no problem selling it raw.

    It is, indisputably, one heck of a roll find!
     
  15. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    Great find!!
     
  16. Bob Evancho

    Bob Evancho Well-Known Member

    Nice find Newbee03. It is a very dirty coin and your pictures are hard to check the details closely. Since you have the coin in hand I would suggest you go to PCGS price guide. When the page opens up, scroll down to
    • Walking Liberty Half Dollar (1916-1947) and click on it. When that page opens up, you will see a camera on the right hand side that says photograde. Click on it and wait for the page to open. For me the page usually opens with a range of 64 to 68. Just below the coins, you will see a light row of dots. Click on the third dot. The page that opens up will have coins from G4 to F12. Now compare your coin. Expanding and comparing your coin and the photograde, it appears to be a Fine but I don't have the your coin in hand. Do this for every coin you get. At coin club meetings, this is what I instruct the members to do. Greysheet puts a fine at around $135. Coins magazine puts it at $195. IF a dealer needs the coin for a customer, he will probably offer you in the $100 area or more depending on how much the dealer needs the coin for a customer. Roughly 80% of Greysheet. What the dealer sells it for depends on the profit margin they want to make. Dealers have expenses so keep that in mind. Enjoy coin collecting.
     
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  17. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    For fifty cents you can't go wrong but think twice before sending it to a TPG. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  18. Newbee03

    Newbee03 Well-Known Member

    Sorry guys I haven't been able to take better pictures tell now but here they are it's the best I can do with a phone camera I used different lighting to try to show the best of the details. CM220320-195652007.jpg CM220321-155632006.jpg CM220321-155646007.jpg CM220320-195309003.jpg
     
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  19. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    With the new pictures, I'm still inclined to say Fine, although I'm not confident about 15.
     
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