GTG 1880 s Morgan...

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  1. MS67

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    0.0%
  2. MS66

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. MS65

    4 vote(s)
    12.9%
  4. MS64

    16 vote(s)
    51.6%
  5. MS63

    10 vote(s)
    32.3%
  6. MS62

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. MS61

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  8. MS60

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  9. PL

    17 vote(s)
    54.8%
  10. DMPL

    2 vote(s)
    6.5%
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  1. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    took a lot of hunting, but this is one of the few missing from my date set, and I wanted a real nice one for this slot... I found this beauty and managed to talk the seller into selling it for list (damn it! I paid full list again! but worth it this time i think lol)
    Let's have some guesses. Lots of pic to go by :D s-l500.jpg s-l1600.jpg s-l16001.jpg s-l160011.jpg 22.jpg 222.jpg 2222.jpg
     
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  3. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I would guess 64PL. If it's not PL then it's darn close!
     
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  4. 1stSgt22

    1stSgt22 I'm just me! Supporter

    I like it!! 65!
     
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  5. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    I think you got a MS 65 PL
     
  6. Marsden

    Marsden Well-Known Member

    I agree that it looks PL, but the bar for 80-S and 81-S PLs is very high. Not saying that it should be, necessarily, but the sheer quantity of high-grade coins available in those two dates has had an effect.
     
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  7. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    Oh I'm aware. A 65PL in a '79-S, '80-S or '81-S would be very close to a 66DMPL on almost any other Morgan. That's why if you want a nice looking Morgan without breaking the bank shop the '79, '80 and '81's from San Francisco. ;)
     
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  8. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    65 PL. if they graded it as 64 no PL designation, they are flat out WRONG. I know that TPGs are hard on that date, but it is gem, and PL. I own enough PLs and Gems to know what they look like. Honestly, it looks more 66 to me than 65, but it should be 65, and designated at the very least. Beautiful coin!
     
  9. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    This is the main reason I insisted on a very nice coin for this slot.. I can live with "details" on the 95 and low MS's on other dates, but the "commons" need to be extra pretty before I'll include em lol
     
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  10. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    MS 64 PL....the graders can be hard on the 80/81/82 San Franciscos so I can see them being harsh ....I believe this should get PL (mirrors look to be strong enough based on what I see in the photos). I also think it could be a 65 (the hits aren't that bad, especially on the mirror fields) but think the graders were conservative
     
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  11. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    +1
     
  12. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Well-Known Member

    MS63 PL
    Obv ms63
    Rev ms67
     
  13. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

  14. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Just like my 1882cc. Drastically undergraded, and probably on the edge of PL and DMPL. Consider submitting it to NGC for a crossover at 65PL, and see if you can get the grade and DPL designation. If you are willing to spend the money, it might be worth it. Or, send it to CAC, and go for a green or gold bean. That coin is beautiful.
     
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  15. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    That was my thoughts and well worth "list" price for the grade :D
     
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  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    If you do minimum grade and PL, you don’t risk losing the PL designation. If you are amenable to the financial investment, you have nothing to lose, except for the submission fee.
     
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  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Got my guess in, 64 PL.
    I see no path, that the OP's Morgan gets a 65. And definitely not in PL standards.
     
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  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    That’s interesting. I see no reason that it was limited to a 64 grade. I have 65 PLs that look exactly like that. In my view, it was a TPG mistake.
     
  19. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    The average of the poll puts it squarely at the assigned grade.
     
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  20. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    As an early S mint Morgan. This coin just has too much contact and luster grazes to get a 65, even on a non PL coin.
     
  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Nope. Those are frost breaks on the cheek. That is extremely common on PL coins, as are the striations in the fields, courtesy of die polish. The coin has few bagmarks, actually.
     
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