Need help Authenticating Tiberius coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Rich Na, Mar 16, 2022.

  1. Rich Na

    Rich Na New Member

    Hello. This is my first post. I found this site while researching this coin I am looking at purchasing. I do not own any ancient coins so I am not very familiar with these. I believe this is the Tiberius denarius coin. After reading about this coin it seems that this coin has been faked quite a bit. So I wanted to see if you guys could help me identify if you think this coin is real? If so what would you guys estimate the value to be since it appears to be in bad shape and missing pieces. And also what is the silver content supposed to be on these coins? I've read they're all silver and then I've read somewhere else that their silver and copper so I'm not sure which one. Any help would be greatly appreciated Screenshot_20220315-165039~2.png Screenshot_20220315-165046~2.png Screenshot_20220315-165053~4.png my
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I don't see anything wrong with it other than it's crystalized and in rough condition.
     
  4. Tejas

    Tejas Well-Known Member

    In this condition the coin is of very little to almost no commercial value. Hence, my guess is that it is genuine. However, the rough surfaces look a bit dubious.
     
  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Probably about 90% fine silver at this point. I believe it to be authentic but crystallized. In good condition they are around $500-600, so some fraction of that would be appropriate.
     
  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    i'd say legit......i haven't really priced any lately... i'd think around $70 +-....
     
  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I $50 would be generous. One good drop and that coin will shatter everywhere.
     
  8. Rich Na

    Rich Na New Member

    Ok thanks guys for the info! I'm going to buy it for $65 so I'm happy with that.
     
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  9. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    price is right.jpg
     
  10. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    .. i paid $80 for this one 5 years ago ... IMG_0908.JPG IMG_0909.JPG (QUCIKPICS) Tiberius denarius 18mm, 3.15gms
     
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  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..post your coin when you get it @Rich Na :)
     
  12. RichardT

    RichardT Well-Known Member

    Reverse die details are the only way to differentiate denarii of Tiberius, because almost all bear exactly the same broad design. Which is a seated female figure.

    This is likely to be an early issue, which are slightly more desirable I believe.

    Analyses by Alan Walker (The Metrology of the Roman Silver Coinage, 1976) and Kevin Butcher (The Metallurgy of Roman Silver Coinage From the Reform of Nero to the Reform of Trajan, 2015), decades apart, state that denarii of Tiberius were intended by the ancients to be pure silver. If you have a source which they're 90% pure, that would be interesting to read.

    Chipped or damaged coins generally aren't worth too much. Also, as others have mentioned, it looks like this coin is heavily crystallised and very fragile.

    Probably authentic, since the weight, damage, style etc look convincing. But the image resolution is too low to be more certain.
     
  13. Rich Na

    Rich Na New Member

    Just got the coin today. Here are some better pics up close. Based on the new pictures you guys still think this is a real coin? IMG_20220319_124327541_HDR.jpg IMG_20220319_124237607_HDR.jpg IMG_20220319_124247557_HDR.jpg IMG_20220319_124258250_HDR.jpg
     
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  14. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..uh...well...its rough... idk i don't think those are casting bubbles...crystalized...but then again....we'll let others ring in...:)
     
  15. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    It is authenticated by the damage. The interior is clearly crystallized/ embrittled, which happens over a long period.

    Be very careful. At this stage of embrittlement, it could easily shatter.
     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2022
  16. Rich Na

    Rich Na New Member

    Thank you for all the information
     
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