Probably because you took their attention away from what they are doing, if you catch my drift. Think positive girl you are the one in charge! Thanks for the post and good luck...
It's a simple fact of life, there are good dealers, so-so dealers, and bad dealers. Just like there are good collectors, so-so collectors, and bad collectors. In other words, it's people, and they come in all shapes, sizes, types, and personalities. And as people, we, are constantly sorting them all out. But we also have to keep in mind, they are also constantly sorting us out. And that, all by itself, can make a difference in how we perceive them, and how they perceive us, on initial contact/meeting. To put all this another way we have to sort the good from the bad, but so do they. Now sometimes that's easy to do, other times it's too easy to do, and yet other times it'll be more difficult, maybe because of caution on both sides. So it's often best to not have preconceived notions and expectations on initial meetings, to have an open mind and try to understand the other person's side of things. They're going through exactly the same things you are. They want good customers just as much as you want good dealers. Sadly not all people out there are good people, you know that, and they know that. So maybe, just maybe, give a little. Instead of a witty retort to a comment you take one way, let it slide and make a friendly comment. It can often bring about a profound change, or not. But you'll know which it is soon enough. I have often said that the very best thing a collector can do is to establish relationships with dealers. And that just aint gonna happen by dishing out vinegar, when you should be dishing out honey. So maybe, just maybe, dish out a little honey - it could go a long ways, and often when you least expect it. Of course if all ya get is vinegar in return then walk away, but don't dish out vinegar of your own, just walk away. Ya never know who else is nearby and paying attention to what's going on. It may be that good dealer you're looking for, at the next table, or on the opposite side of the aisle. And if all you're doing is dishing out vinegar, he's not gonna want to have anything to do with ya. So you could be doing more harm to yourself than ya are good by trying to feel better by retaliating.
Many dealers do a decent job of not stereotyping people, but coin culture has remained pretty "male" for the entire time I've bought coins at shops and shows. I think it does turn away a lot of women from the hobby. The very few times my wife has accompanied me to coin shows, she said the atmosphere reminded her of a car repair shop. She felt alienated and out of place and afterwards said "I really felt like I didn't belong there." I don't think that anyone is doing this intentionally or maliciously, but some awareness of how the hobby's overall culture affects others outside of its default demographic would probably help.
Geeze @Trish, I never even gave sexism in coin collecting a thought. If I were on the selling side of the table, ANYONE interested in looking at my items would demand my attention. I guess that's why that new car ad came out, showing a woman getting ignored by salesmen. Thanks for the post.
This is a good lesson. You never know where the next great idea, business deal, opportunity, or act of kindness will come from. If you stereotype and ignore people before you hear what they have to say/offer/contribute you're likely missing out on a lot of good stuff and have nobody to blame but yourself. Just my thoughts
Absolutely correct. Several bad experiences have turned me off to any local shows and local dealers. And by local, I'm talking the big city of Houston.
I know exactly what you mean. A local dealer has treated me in much the same way as you were treated, although I'm certainly less knowledgeable than you are. Screw women's lib-respect is respect! Some guys just don't get it.
Yea, there's exactly two I will spend any time with around here unless I happen to see a big cherry pick walking by. The ugly truth is most dealers at shows arent worth the time of day and will just lie and hype things if they think you dont know any better. There are good dealers out there, but just because someone has a table doesnt mean you should listen to them or trust them
You: Can I see that 1922 Morgan? Dealer: UH! Yea I guess! You: A combination of the condition, price and your attitude cause me to NOT want it! Think I'll buy one from a different dealer!!! Attitude now adjusted!!! IMHO
I'll tread lightly on this one. Always thought LCS was Local Coin Store...never seen it used for Local Coin Show...but then, as you know, I've lived a sheltered life...
That was the point Top was making..... Always assume the 1St Sgt. knows what he is doing and listen. KP sucks.
I understand! No such thing! Hope he is looking for it! After reading it again I see how it could be confusing!! Sorry! Next time I'll make sure I make sense!!!
Sometimes it's enjoyable to have someone say stupid things. It gives me a chance to say stupid things back.
I get tired of dealers who judge "the book by its cover." I learned early on that you can't judge anybody that way. At one show, when I was first getting started, a guy is scruffy jeans asked to look at a Bust Dollar that was worth a bit less than $3,000. He asked the price, and I told him. Before I knew it he reached in his pocket and started pealing off $100 bills, and they were all real. There have been great and successful female coin dealers. The late Catherine Bullowa had a wonderful inventory and handled some great coins. There is woman on the show circuit who calls her business "The Penny Lady." She has great material.
I don't know how to help with this much other than agreeing that is pretty low, and were I to overhear it I'd probably take my money to another table, too. A potential customer shouldn't be dismissed for any reason. "Can I help you find anything in particular" would be the only question they should be asking. Reminds me of a bit I read in Numismatic News a long time ago - paper magazine days - where a dealer made some crack at a man picking through the 10-cent foreign coin bin for being "cheap." The story ended with a very wealthy man at the same table overhearing this and scooping up his money to take it elsewhere - while loudly announcing why. Some people can't keep their assumptions to themselves. The last gun show I went to, I started browsing a table and the proprietor got it in his head that - without me even saying a word - I would be interested in hearing his spiel about what the "left" thinks about me. "To them, you're just a racist cracker" and all that. Sorry, not appropriate at all, I was just here to look at these holsters. So I went to look elsewhere. So at least there's that. Jackasses who run their mouths end up losing money.
Well, I still say Top was right. I done gott gud traneing in sucking up to 1st Sgts.. What Top really meant....and was just being nice....was that everybody should ask the Dealer for a 22 Morgan, to test whether the Dealer know what he/she is talking about.
You're welcome, but I know for a fact that Tops don't make mistakes or admit to them (except to Officers to make them feel better). Can I have a Pass now??