Good morning folks! I came across this penny and noticed that the reverse looked like it was from a clashed die, but the obverse appears free from any. Clashed dies are not something that I am familiar with and have only started looking for them after seeing posts on this forum. Thanks!
Hard for me to judge from the pictures it could be a clashed die, it could be progressive indirect design transfer (PIDT) you'd need to determine which it is in hand. specifically what's going on between the columns on the reverse and if you can detect columns on the obverse at all. I'd also suggest you determine which 1982 cent is is. 1982 brass large date. 1982 brass small date. 1982 zinc large date. 1982 zinc small date. You'd get the weight first, that will narrow it down to Brass or Zinc. then you'd compare the dates to determine if it's ODV-031, or ODV-032. Obverse design varieties for the lincoln cent series are here: http://www.varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/Obverse Design Varieties.htm the amount of "mush" to the reverse memorial and FG leads me to believe it's PIDT at a glance, just die deterioration. but it would take a closer inspection to differentiate and determine.
Definitely a clashed die, and a strong one. There are Typical clashed dies and Atypical clashed dies. Here is a reference you might be able to match it to one of these. Typical die clashes. http://www.maddieclashes.com/typical-die-clash-u-s-small-cent/ Atypical die clashes http://www.maddieclashes.com/atypical-u-s-small-cent/
@John Burgess the Y clash and partial T in the memorial bays make this one evident that the dies clashed.
Thanks. I saw it, I just wouldn't make the call on it definitively, I don't spend too much time on clashes myself and have only seen a couple in hand.
Thanks folks! I appreciate all your comments. It feels like a copper/brass cent, not a zinc, but I could be wrong. I don't have a minute scale for that.
Yes to a clashed die. Not seeing something on the obverse also might mean the original clashing might not have been strong enough or it was caught early and polished out. Look on the obverse to see if there are any elements of Lincoln that are missing or very weak. This might be an indicator. In addition to the bays I also see remnants of the clashing beneath the Memorial where the head would meet.
The replies and links you have received are a great learning experience for all that aren't familiar with clashes. Thanks for the post.
Or possibly damaged and replaced mating up a new obverse die with the old reverse die. I’ve flipped a few and thought how can this be. One side clashed pretty well but not the other. And it almost looks like there might be some witness marks on this obverse. Can’t say for sure.
Yes, this also. Possibly something beneath the chin but it's hard to tell from my vantage point. I have seen a good many where the fields get polished up well but something about the tight quarters beneath the chin and directly behind the neck see remnants of the columns.
Me too. I was trying to fight off the pareidolia so I couldn’t commit. Maddie might have photos to conclusively attribute though.
I think there is some evidence of the clash on the obverse. But, it looks as if the die was polished some to try and remove the evidence.
I think I can make out witness marks on the obverse too. Have you tried to attribute it yet? Probably easier to do with the coin in hand.
I took a look at MADDIECLASHES and it isn't listed there. The obverse die may have been polished to remove most of the clash, so the witness mark on the coin is faded and less discernable.
