GtG: 1804 Spiked Chin half cent

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Guess the grade

  1. AU55

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. AU53

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. AU50

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. XF45

    1 vote(s)
    3.6%
  5. XF40

    10 vote(s)
    35.7%
  6. VF35

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%
  7. VF30

    8 vote(s)
    28.6%
  8. VF25

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  9. VF20

    1 vote(s)
    3.6%
  10. Details grade (explain why you think so)

    1 vote(s)
    3.6%
  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    My latest purchase, won in the DLRC auction. Guess the grade if you like.

    This one replaces a PCGS VF20 with the same look I had but sold in 2013, and ended up lamenting.

    I'll reveal the answer after there have been 20 votes in the poll.

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

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  4. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I went with 35 but truth be told I have no idea
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    She's giving you chin.

    Edit- well, there IS a little tongue-like protrusion there too, now that you mention it.
     
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  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'll go with VF30.
     
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  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I would go VF-30. The details are a little sharper, but the color is on the dark side. It is most common of the four Spiked Chin varieties with a small "bar" coming from the top of the "R" on the reverse. I think that is C-8, but I'm getting old.

    EAC would be somewhere around VF-20. The ultra conservative EAC guys would call it a Fine.
     
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  8. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I'm at VF25 with this one. I think it's an attractive coin but it has VF wear and I think there are few too many hits to grade higher than 25.
     
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  9. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Guessing VF35. I heard long ago about this variety. Very cool.
     
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  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I picked VF30, lovely coin either way.
     
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  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here is one of the few coins I kept from my half cent die variety collection that I sold many years ago. This is also a Spiked Chin, but it's the C-5 variety. There are four varieties with the Spiked Chin obverse and other reverses.

    Cohen thought this was the variety that was on the press when the obverse was injured. Some people think that it might have been a screw with the head making the spike and the threads creating the ridges in the field.

    The reverse is cracked on this variety which may have happened when the dies came together with the coin blank and screw between them.

    NGC graded this coin EF-45 more than 20 years ago.

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  12. psuman08

    psuman08 Active Member

    I think this one makes XF-40. Nice!
     
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  13. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    This is the C-8.

    I would call this coin a TPG EF-40 but an EAC VF-25 sharpness, net VF-20 due to color and hit on cheek.

    Solid example of the spiked chin variety which is always a neat coin.
     
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  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Ah, yes. This is an important distinction. I am of course discussing the TPG grade here.
     
  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    And you will pay EF money for it, regardless of the grade the EAC puts on it. There is some game playing when it comes to EAC grading. Those guys never give their coins away.
     
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  16. Patrick King

    Patrick King Well-Known Member

    Details- scratch
     
  17. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I went with 40. Have one in much lower grade with extensive rev cuds
     
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  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’m in the 30 camp.
     
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  19. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    There's no question of the truth in that statement and that is because the vast bulk of the price-setting market is in the TPG coins.

    Nonetheless, I find value in the EAC grade standards. I never buy an early copper of any value without comparing the TPG grade with the EAC standards to see how much offset exists and why.
     
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  20. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    OK, it’s time.

    Ready?


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  21. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Well-Known Member

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