Lamination crack?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Zzyzzyth, Feb 26, 2010.

  1. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    Now that I've learned a tiny bit, I went back through some of my mint sets. Sorry if the pics are rough through the cellophane.

    But, is this what is considered a lamination crack? It's not a die crack, there appears to be separation from the planchet, almost as if he has a chunk of skin that you could just peel back from his head.

    And if I bust up the set, is this a keeper?
     

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  3. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Looks more like a die chip to me, keep the cellophane on that cent as you know it will be worth more in one piece. nice find for sure!
     
  4. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    I don't think it's a die chip. It may be a bad pic. It's like I could stick a razor blade up under the edge of the crack.

    OR, it's a new version of die chip I'm not used to seeing.
     
  5. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    Hopefully this is a better view.
     

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  6. gixxxer

    gixxxer Who Is John Galt**

    Is it a copper cent, or copper/zinc cent?
     
  7. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    Copper. '60D large date.
     
  8. gixxxer

    gixxxer Who Is John Galt**

    I'll go out on a limb and say that it may be a lamination error.
    Why? It's obviousiously NOT zinc rot.
    And I have a hard time seeing an incused part of a die being chipped, especially in such a smooth, even manner. Also the Op who has coin in hand states:
    "It's like I could stick a razor blade up under the edge of the crack."

    I am as far from an expert that I could be, but I have learned a couple of things on this site. My saying that I think it may be a lamination error may be way out in left field, but i'll patientlly wait for someone with more knowledge to verify my theory, or shoot it down.
     
  9. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    Yeah, it almost looks like a "doctor's incision" of his forehead to get to the skull! I have only seen a couple of these and at first thought it was PMD, but put them in the "hold pile" to come back to. I know I have another one in this pile that I need to go back through. I'll see if I can find the other one for a better pic. If I remember correctly, it was similar and in or near the same place.
     
  10. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Looks and sounds like a lamination error to me. Nice find.

    Gixxxer-
    BTW, incused parts of the die do chip and crack often. This is a very common area for chips and cracks. Other areas to look for such die chips and cracks will be Lincoln's jacket and the columns of the Memorial building.
     
  11. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    Are lamination errors worth anything? I don't have an immediate need to bust it up for albums or anything, but should I leave the set intact because of it?
     
  12. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    As far as the individual coin goes, you could probably get a few bucks for it. It's only going to be valued by those who collect these errors, so I don't think it would add any additional premium to the set. I'd split the set up. See if the dime has full bands or if the Franklin has full bell lines.
     
  13. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    Thank you. As I learn this hobby, I struggle with what is collectable and what is not. I see a lot of errors get diagnosed here, but never know whether to keep them or not if I find them.
     
  14. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Cool coin!! :)
     
  15. Captainkirk

    Captainkirk 73 Buick Riviera owner

    The late 50s and early 60s cents have lots of coins like this, I call them 'crackheads'. I have lots from 1958 and 1955.
     
  16. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    LOL @ crackheads!

    What am looking for on "full bell lines"? I haven't jumped into the Franklins yet (these are the only 2 I have). My local coin dealer has a really nice set (I thought) for sale that I almost bought a little while back. Now I'm glad I didn't buy it blindly.

    The 2 I have I assume you should be able to read the inscription on the bell? I can only tell that there is an inscription there, just can't make out what it says. Not sure if it is LDS as I haven't studied Franklins yet.
     
  17. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Here's what to look for:

    http://franklinhalfguide.com/full-bell-lines/
     
  18. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    Thanks for the link. Early indication is LDS on the D as there is some deterioration to the left of the crack. On the P, the lines are practically non-existent. Hey, I have a couple of nice cracks! LOL
     
  19. gixxxer

    gixxxer Who Is John Galt**

    Thanks for the good info jallengomez!
     
  20. AngryAce

    AngryAce Junior Member

    I kinda find it ironic that lincoln was shot in the head.. cool penny mate.
     
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