Have a 1943 penny

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Michael Barber, Feb 8, 2022.

  1. Michael Barber

    Michael Barber New Member

    And why? I'm sorry I should have asked that in the original
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The odds are not in your favor, this is a well known coin that is faked on a regular basis. You can buy them for a couple dollars on a site called alibaba.
    Your photos are quite a bit blurry and show zero details of the coins surface.
    Put your coin to the side, look at a couple more thousands of Lincoln wheats then look at the details of your coin again.
    Or, find a reputable numismatist, coin club, that can look the coin over in hand and help you before you send the coin for authentication and a grade.
     
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  4. Michael Barber

    Michael Barber New Member

    I live in the northeast. Where is there one around?
     
  5. Kurisu

    Kurisu Well-Known Member

    An even sharper image would be more telling but at a glance it looks like that used to be a 2 and turned it into a 3 with a touch of scraping and soldering...can't really tell but I agree it doesn't look authentic.
     
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  6. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    At one time , it was common to plate them. The company required the coins come from the customer, so they were just plating them and not providing the fake. I like the part about "DEALERS" at the bottom.


    From a 1960s Numismatic Scrapbook magazine of mine.

    I edited your post to show the full size rather than the small image
    Jim
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    Jim
     
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  7. Michael Barber

    Michael Barber New Member

    And that's what the magnets for! And it is NOT attracted to one! And it weighs north of 3 grams!
     
  8. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    If I thought I had one I would be traveling to one of the grading services for a walk through authentication.
     
  9. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    the alibaba ones are replicas and made in copper, some have a tiny "copy" on them, some don't, but it's not hard to remove the "copy" because its so small.

    it doesn't need to be a copper plated steel cent, it doesn't need to be a changed date. there's plenty of fakes being cranked out in various formats that unless it's graded, just consider it counterfeit.

    and that includes the ones offered on Etsy or facebook. you won't find the actual coin at any of these places, and you won't find one in your change either. what you will find is the fake ones possibly that's about it.

    At this point there really isn't anything to discuss, you were asked for clear pictures of the coin front and back, you come back again with dark out of focus pictures. The magnet doesn't matter, your scale doesn't matter, there's a shop in china cranking out hundreds of thousands of replicas, right weight, right composition, but marked and not marked as copys as they should be, and easy to remove the marking even if it was marked.

    if you want it actually reviewed by us further, bright, in focus pictures. if you won't take the opinions, then what are you waiting for, send it for grading.

    NOBODY with a brain would buy it if offered for sale without it being authenticated first, that's for sure. and at this point nobody here is going to be convinced that the one you've shown is even remotely legitimate off the evidence provided.

    Just being straight with ya partner. May be a little harsh, but that's reality.
     
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  10. Michael Barber

    Michael Barber New Member

    I don't know what else you want. Closer up on the numbers?
     

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  11. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Compare your coin to an authentic one. Notice the mushy appearance, poorly defined wheat stalks, and misshapen head on yours. Classic Chinese counterfeit characteristics. A 1943 copper should have a strong strike because the presses were set up to strike harder steel planchets, not softer copper

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    If you still feel the opinions you've been given are incorrect, you're going to have to send it for authentication. It's a waste of money, but the choice is yours
     
  12. Michael Barber

    Michael Barber New Member

    That's all I needed! Thank you!
     
  13. Michael Barber

    Michael Barber New Member

    I just tried biting it. "Tastes" EXACTLY the same as my other Wheaties. Same sound everything
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2022
  14. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Hmmm. Does it taste like "Wheat Thins"? Salty and crunchy?I live in the NE also. Send it to e and I'll check it out.
     
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  15. Michael Barber

    Michael Barber New Member

  16. The only way to know for sure is to have it graded. So if grading cost is not an issue, forget the naysayer's 'opinions' here (since no one can know for certain), and just go for it! :shame:
     
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  17. Bob Evancho

    Bob Evancho Well-Known Member

    A careful examination of the lettering of your coin clearly indicates it is a counterfeit. Enlarge your pictures and those of the genuine coins. Compare the S in TRUST. Compare the other letters. I recently saw a counterfeit 1943 like yours and a 1944 zinc coated steel counterfeit like yours that was donated to a church. Most collectors don't have an XRF machine but I always recommend a person have the coin checked with an XRF to determine the metal composition. Most counterfeits don't pass the test. A few years ago I was asked to check out an 1896-S Morgan dollar. It was in VF condition. A dealer sold it. I use many tests to determine authenticity. It weighed 27.1 grams instead of 26.73. XRF showed 94% silver. Obverse die was not paired with the correct reverse die. There were other characteristics which indicated struck counterfeit. Send it to ICG and have them encapsulate it in their "for educational Purposes only" holder if counterfeit.
     
  18. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    The reverse doesn't look right. The obverse even the with the fuzzy picture something seems off. Get yourself a few P steel cents and compare them before you comit to sending the in. Although I'm not into wheat cents I'm sure you can find pictures of real bronze 1943's with reference points to look at.
     
  19. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Just a joke. The odds are that it is fake
     
  20. Michael Barber

    Michael Barber New Member

    I'm unsure if you got the pictures, I know the first ones were out of wack, im hopeing these are better!! Lmk
     
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