Undertype on a 1796 S-85 large cent?

Anytime you can help a top of the line numismatic researcher like @Jack D. Young its a good day.

 

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I love cool projects like this- pulls a lot of folks together! The research for me is the best part, although the "coins" are pretty cool as well!

And a friend asked how a TPG could certify this one with that big star in front of the face...

 

Let me know if you think the overlay is misplaced or mis-sized. Some degrading in image converting from cad file to jpg

 

Great job.

 

Awesome @justafarmer !

 

I am planning on capturing the images from your original post to overlay. Maybe these will hold up better with less degrading in the CAD to jpg conversion.

 

Using the images from the original post didn't do much for the degrading issue. Overlayed a full petite head obverse map onto the full obverse image from the original post. Using this I got the tips of the stars to line up.

 

Outstanding!!

 

I am trying to figure this one out

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1436954795...fPB1dXrBVzwuyexeBtgSjHC2Q5uZQtCQaArJSEALw_wcB

Anyone guess the undertype?

 

Awesome!

 

Are you seeing more than the typical die clash and comet die break on this one?

 

I see the Comet but not an under-type. But seeing under-types is not my forte.

 

Oops

 

Coin Week published my latest Dark Corner article on this one: https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/f...HXF2amM_NhRTFibbn3wU-lLGmhfT3pEiOExlQGpN11wCQ

 

Wonderful thread

 

Oh hell. If it’s NOT there then. I’m seeing things. You see I’m not trained enough to see them things. I like when I can see it Super fun

 

Nice. At first I thought reused planchet common in the 1790s. But then saw the outline and the lettering too big. A deceptive one at first Jack. I’m actually surprised they don’t do this more with cull coins

 

I believe they did; I know of two Bay lots of culls the counterfeiters purchased early on. I have 2 other early date large cent counterfeits that tested correct for metal but have not been able to see any undertype on them. Probably time to send them to @Insider to put under his microscope!

 

As an authenticator of copper, you and your EAC group are way, way, way (get the idea) past my abilities! Professor Young, as I learn from you, I am hopelessly jealous of your knowledge and C/F collection.