'22d wheat cent

Hey all i started a thread before containing this but it looks like the title doesn't command the attention of those who would be most helpful. any ideas on the grade? and how weak is a 'weak d'? Hoping PennyLady or RLM or the Dutchman can take a gander...

 

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Your pictures are kind of out of focus and not straight on, so it is a little hard to tell for sure, but that looks to be fine to me.

 

Wait for an expert, but I think that's just a regular D. Weak D is extremely weak, almost as weak as No D. I'd grade it at VG-8, maybe.

Joe

 

BTW, it is a 1922-D. Not a weak "D" at all.

 

Thats an extremely strong D

 

It is in abp condition.

 

I would like to take a stab because I want to learn more and how to properly grade coins.

So my 2 cents from reading and looking at http://www.lincolncentresource.com/Lincoln_Cent_Grading_Guide.html

That coin would appear to be in VG-8 condition.

Hopefully this site will help you out!

-Shrek

 

It's 22-D in low-VG condition is all. Even the regular 22-D is a good coin nowadays but it really needs to be in at least VF to command much premieum. It is not a weak "D" at all though.

 

Regualar D, not weak, VG-8.

 

pcgs grading guide.

check out this link to compare. http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase.aspx?sc=606 the vg coin shown here looks in way worse shape than mine.

 

according to this mine more closely resembles the one shown as AU50. It appears to be die #2, as the 'O' in one on the rev. is nearly missing on the left side, which is common for that die. I know my photos don't do it proper justice, but all the lines are clearly visible on the wheat stalks on the rev. when the coin is in hand. not to mention the hairs on Lincoln's head. Grrrr. that's it I'm gettn a better camera with my tax return! Anyway, what PCGS recognized a G or AG has barely the date visable, let alone any detail. I'll try to get a more straight on shot posted in the next few days but you guys take a look at that link and see if you don't make a new judgement on the grade. I'm pretty sure you'll all agree mine's condition far exceeds any in the good range as far as PCGS cares. Maybe it'll be the first coin I ever send in.

 

I will keep my eyes open for this variety. Thank you for posting.

 

First off, we are grading from a picture. You have the coin in hand. It makes a big difference particularly when half of each of your pictures are out of focus. We did what we could with what you gave us.

Secondly, that grading set is near useless. It takes both side of the coin to grade it. Try looking at these pictures. http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/#/Lincoln/Grades They are better pictures and they show both sides.

FWIW, I know I am the odd man out, but I did not grade it VG. I extrapolated from you pictures and assumed that either your wheat lines were present and not caught by your camera or it was a weak strike. If they are really as worn as your picture makes them look, your coin is only VG.

 

The 22D is a hard coin to grade from photographs. The strikes vary from extremely strong to pitifully weak. Looking at a photo you mainly see the effects of the strike. To correctly grade the wear, you must look with a loupe or at least hold it in your hand and tilt it to see the wear effects. The same for determining a weak D, regular photos can show it is not a weak D, but only in hand or an extremely sharp focused high detail photo can really allow one to determine if it is. My estimate on the grade is same as RLM's~ Fine, and regular 1922-D. The value of the 1922D cent from VG to even EF, would not offset the cost of grading in my opinion.

Jim

 

I missed that line about "send in". Your coin might be worth $15. Why on earth would you want to spent a minimum of $20 to get it certified so you could sell it for $15, or maybe once it is slabbed you could get $20 for it.

 

The 1922-D takes an experienced eye to grade. It's one of my favorite coins in the series because of the different die states used. They are all over the place.

The pictures are horrible, but I think I see separation between the cheek and jaw. That makes this coin a technical VF. Accounting for the mid- die state, that should be pretty accurate. This coin is no where near AU and no where near a weak D. It's also not worth getting slabbed. These have to be at least MS grade to make slabbing logical.

22-D's in this condition typically sell for $20-25 at a coin show.

 

Heres what you have and why you are having trouble with our opinions.
This coin was struck from a strong (or newer) obv. die and a weak reverse die. The wear is the over-all issue not the details. It held up well (to such circulation) on the obv. and the reverse is worn out. Yes the jaw line is strong but the fields are worn out, smooth and begining to merge esp. on the reverse. We do not just grade the high points of a coin. Yes, these are where wear first shows up but there is the fields, the rim, overall surface condition and appearence. This coin has been widley circulated and worn. All this said I would up my grade your coin to a higher VG maybe after seeing it it hand. It would never in a thousand years at any TPG company be any higher than a low Fine. Under no circumstances would this coin need to be sent in for grading and slabbing unless you want to just waist money. It has not been an AU coin since 1925.
I would buy this coin at $16, $17 and sell it for $24.

 

well thanks for looking guys. I have to say that after looking at these 2 other grading sets I agree it looks more like vf, but hearing that the '22d is tough to grade is why I chose the set composed of '22d's graded by PCGS. I love these kinds of coins... ones that everyone who sees it can have a completely different opinion, supported by well-thought-out views. Well, next pic I post will be with a new camera.

 

new camera = better pics

here are some better pics lol now I need to work on lighting and background but these are 10x better.

 

I will pretty much stand by my earlier comments.