Athena & Owl Drachm is scarce compared to Athena & Owl Tetradrachms

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  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    ATHENS FRACTIONAL OWLS - AR & AE

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    Athens Attica
    454-404 BCE
    AR HemiDrachm
    16mm 2.08g
    Athena frontal eye -
    facing Owl wings closed olive branches
    COP 70 SG 2528


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    Athens
    340-317 BCE
    AE 12
    Athena attic helmet R-
    Double bodied Owl with head facing E olive sprigs kalathos R
    BMC 224
     
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  3. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Sodium thiosulfate pentahydrate, when dissolved in heated distilled water, is a very effective method to remove horn silver, without needing to resort to any mechanical tools, except for some toothpick perhaps.

    The problem with removing horn silver is that there is a very good chance that rough, porous surfaces rest underneath. Stripping away the horn silver is also removing some of a coin's detail. This is due to the surface of the coin, over thousands of years, reacting and alternating due to environmental factors, such as oxygen, water and any other chemicals in the soil, or other surrounding coins or objects.

    The result is often a rough, mushy appearance. That's why it is generally best to leave coins with dark "hoard" patina alone. Any intervention will likely have a negative impact.

    Here's a rare, imitation of an Athenian new style tetradrachm. This coin has a very dark surface that some might call horn silver, others hoard patina, but no matter what term is used, any attempt to remove it would be a disaster!

    D-Camera Athens new style tetradrachm, Imitation,  c. 150 BC 17.1 grms,,  8-23-20.jpg
     
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  4. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    Most Athenian tetradrachms known today come from hoards, some of them enormous (in Egypt it is often 1000s of coins). In "Le monnayage d'argent d'Athènes" Christophe Flament lists all the known hoards containing Athenian owls : we can see that the large majority of these hoards were found outside Athen's territory, in countries where owls circulated as international currency. The drachms and other subdivisions were minted in Athens mostly for domestic circulation. Outside Athens they needed drachms and obols too, but because Athens did not export them, the Middle Eastern cities minted their own Athenian drachms, with or without a mint-mark...
     
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  5. PeteB

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    AthensDr.jpg
    ATTICA, Athens. c. 430s-420s BC. AR Drachm (4.22 gm, 9h, 15mm).Obv: Head of Athena to right, wearing crested Attic helmet adorned with olive leaves and palmette turned upwards. Rev. Owl stg. r., head facing; to left, olive spray; all within incuse square. SNG Copenhagen 41.
     
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  6. PeteB

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    AthensObol4a.jpg
    ATTICA, Athens. Circa 566-490 BC. AR heavy obol (9mm, 0.80 gm, 9h). Obv: Helmeted head of Athena right, with frontal eye (vs. eye in profile of later issues). Rev: ΑΘ(Ε), Owl standing right, head facing; olive sprig behind; all within incuse square. Kroll 13; HGC 4, 1665
     
  7. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Very nice drachm and obol!

    Yes, that obol is quite heavy.
     
  8. Edessa

    Edessa Well-Known Member

    Philistia (Palestine). Uncertain mint (possibly Gaza). Circa Mid-Fifth Century to 333 BC. AR Obol (9mm, 0.63g, 2h). Imitating Athens. Obv: AΘE; Helmeted head of Athena right, with profile eye. Rev: AΘE; Owl standing right, head facing, two olive leaves behind. Ref: SNG ANS 18; HGC 9, 610.

    Greek_Palestine Gaza_ARObol_AthensImit.jpg
     
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