Macrinus Sestertius

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  1. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

    A little update: Curtis Clay just pointed out that my OP coin does have a pedigree: It used to belong to Prince Waldeck´s collection in the late 1700s and was sold in Münzhandlung Basel 1935 Auction 3 (this was lot 730).

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  3. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    It Keeps getting better, great provenance now added , congrats Julius.

    All I have is a bit shabby Macrinus, like cucumber's also from Nikopolis:

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  4. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    A nice provenance is always good. It adds to the appeal of your coin for sure.
     
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  5. galba68

    galba68 Well-Known Member

    bronze head of imp macrinus
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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Great upgrade and GREAT provenance on your Sesterius @Julius Germanicus !

    LOL, I still have my AE As from Macrinus. I like it because of the facing quadrigatus... kinda cool perspective.

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    RI Macrinus 217-218 AE25 CE Facing Quadriga
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  7. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I say it again, that is a very impressive sestertius of Macrinus you have there J.G!

    I lack a sestertius of Macrinus, but do have this dupondius in my collection:
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    And this denarius:
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  8. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I've got a provincial bronze, but that's it (so far)!

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    Reverse is much better than the obverse. Uncleaned hoard, so I don't know which city issued it, but I could make out that it was Macrinus.
     
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  9. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    @Julius Germanicus, that is a splendid sestertius. What a beauty! And, I especially appreciate the interesting writeup. I like it when posters show they have studied their coins.
     
  10. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

    @Julius Germanicus. Now that is an awesome sestertius!!! And thanks for the very cool write up!
     
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  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Wow! What provenance!
     
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    WOW again!
     
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  13. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

    Your Dupondius (RIC 161) is extremely rare with maybe only 3 known. The revers seems to anticipate Macrinus´ Adventus, maybe during a New Year´s procession in order to receive the consular ornaments, but of course he never made it to Rome.
    Puzzeling enough, is also known with an obverse showing a short cropped beard, which should indicate the type was struck at multiple occasions.
     
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  14. Blake Davis

    Blake Davis Well-Known Member

    Magnificent coin! I recently purchased a Macrinus sestertius with a platform scene reverse ("LIBERALITAS AUGUSTI") from a seller on eBay from Dubai - RIC 194. It has some of the sandy patina typical of coins found in the desert. The portrait has a cuirassed bust which is unlike most of the sestertii of Macrinus. The only other example I have been able to find is in the British museum. Curtis Clay indicated that another example is in “Vienna.” The British Museum example has the same bust type but not the same dies. I can try to upload a photograph.

    Do you know of any links to the articles referenced in this note?
     
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  15. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

    Congratulations to your purchase! Please let us see pictures so we can tell you more about it. It would be interesting to know if it is a short, medium, or long bearded portrait and if the obverse bust is cuirassed only or draped and cuirassed and if it is seen from the front ("open) or back ("closed").

    Clay ("The Roman Coinage of Macrinus and Diadumenian" in Numismatische Zeitschrift 1979, p. 21) only cited the LIBERALITAS AVG reverse in combination with draped and cuirassed obverse portraits featuring the long beard (die Nr. I. 5 of issue 2 (hair on head still short; he cites Feuardent, 20.April 1896, Montagu, 535), and, featuring the same reverse die, obverse dies Nr. I. 8-11 of issue 3 (hair on head long, he cites BMC 5, pl. 80,9; Hirsch 8, 1903, 2611; Rollin-Feuardent, 21.May 1889, 473; Hirsch 18, 1907, 1167). Also dies II.12 (short hair on head; Vienna 15918) and 13 (long hair on head, Münzhandlung Basel 3, 1935, 729 - Waldeck collection and C.L.Clay collection).

    Here is another one, recently sold by CGB.fr on their online shop for 1.250 €:

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    Clay cites seven obverse dies with a cuirassed only (not draped) portrait, but none of those combined with a LIBERALITAS AVG reverse.
     
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    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Welcome @Blake Davis ! Nice to see you here! I enjoy your eBay site.
     
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  17. Restitutor Orbis

    Restitutor Orbis Active Member

    Hi
    I bought the double die matching Sestertius to your Macrinus on Roma some months ago.

    They are both loveley coins. You have some interesting historical facts about your coin. Have you found out anything similar about mine?

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  18. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

    Congratulations to your new acquisition!

    I do not know any further info about the provenance of your coin except it's recent auction history (Roma 04.05.2007, Roma 02.10.2011, Künker 08.10.2012, Roma 30.04.2016, Roma 07.02.2019, Roma 06.02.2020, and Roma 17.06.2021).

    You might find it interesting that Banti (Nr.36) lists a single specimen of RIC 139 / Cohen 36, that in the Bibliotheque National in Paris, which is from the same reverse die as ours but looks to feature a long beard portrait on the obverse.

    Another specimen from the same obverse but a different reverse die as ours is NAC 20.05.2015, lot 1970.

    Clay lists half a dozen specimens of this obverse die combined with other reverse types.
     
  19. Restitutor Orbis

    Restitutor Orbis Active Member

    I do find that interesting to know. Thank you very much.
    By the way, Your collection of sestertii is very impressive.
     
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  20. Blake Davis

    Blake Davis Well-Known Member

    This is a spectacular coin and nicely photographed - can you post the weight and size? Thanks - Blake
     
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  21. Blake Davis

    Blake Davis Well-Known Member

    Thanks - 22 years and still going strong.
     
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