Why did NGC do this?

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  1. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

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  3. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Exactly what did NGC do, that is weird?
     
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  4. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Well, partly, they graded by the reverse, which isn't the norm for Morgans? Just wondered what others thought.
    Should have titled it "Is this a Fair Grade"...can't seem to edit it.
     
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  5. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Maybe the pertinent question is: "Why did NGC give this coin a straight grade?" The reverse is funky. The wear at the rim is not commensurate with the wear on the eagle and the seller says it appears as if the denticles have been shaved for the silver.
     
  6. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    They net graded
     
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  7. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    90% of the story of a Morgan is the Obverse.

    Of course, I do no have the coin in hand and have not personally seen the coin, but it seems fine to me, from the photos, as an AG3.

    The seller's write up is weird, though, I will grant that much...including using a PCGS description, and the looks like VG8 BlahBlah.
     
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  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    :wacky: No telling.

    One of the hardest types of coin to grade are those with two widely different sides. This usually occurs with Drape and Seated coinage. This "environmentally challenged" :D coin shows why coins were originally split graded by the first (INSAB) and second (ANACS) services to add grading opinions for their customers. I should prefer to se a better net grade such as G-6, + the problem for this coin.
     
  9. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    she's one ugly lady.
     
  10. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    After clicking the links, the first question in my mind was NOT the grade. It was why is it labeled CC (Carson City) when it has an O (New Orleans) mintmark?

    Are my links messed up?

    OK. I was looking at the COMP they used for 'grading.'
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    The reverse is AG, hence the grade
     
  12. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    AG based on the reverse. Not a coin I would buy.
     
  13. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Kind of like "EAC grading":D...
    I always thought ANACS details grades for early coppers were very good.
     
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  14. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    No comment, good luck.
     
  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Me either, no comment. I just wanted folks to know I'm posting today. :D Maybe it's time for a quiz.
     
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  16. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I was under the opinion that using "single grading" gave significantly more weight to the obverse.
    Under that policy I would see that coin get at least a G-04.
     
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  17. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Traditions are not consistent. The old rule of thumb was the grade would not exceed the worst side of the coin. Then they would make allowances for some varieties with known die weakness on one side.

    There is honestly no way of knowing anymore. Are deviations from a norm a bad day, a bad grader, a good customer or something else? In the end YOU must determine what YOU will pay and be satisfied.
     
  18. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    It does though significantly more is probably an overstatement, but again it was net graded for other issues as well
     
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  19. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    Someone may have used it as a pocket piece. That may account for the wear on the reverse being more than on the obverse.
     
  20. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    You may be right, but can you explain?
     
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  21. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    It's very doubtful thats what it was. Only one side and then the center on the worn side having more detains? Pocket pieces dont really wear from the edges especially not from just one side
     
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