Help me grade this.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Steve theButcher, Feb 1, 2022.

  1. I am thinking au 58. What say you. $5.JPG $5s.JPG
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    She's Purrdy!!:jawdrop: I can't even begin to grade this lovely Coin. Can you darken the Pic please. More Natural tone. Thanks. :)
     
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Looks at least high AU in terms of detail; I'd say AU55-58, though there's a possibility it just makes it over the Mint State threshold (MS62-63-ish). It's hard to judge, from those photos.

    I'd go with the AU58 estimate to be conservative. Because of the glare in the photos, it's also difficult for me to determine whether or not this coin was lightly polished (i.e., an ex-jewelry piece), but I think it looks OK from what I can see.

    Nice coin, regardless of the technicalities.

    Edit- my eyes went straight for the pics and overlooked your top line where you yourself guessed AU58. So we're apparently in agreement there.
     
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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Au 50 harshly cleaned ...99.99% sure it was removed from a jewery bezel,the edges show wear.....
     
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  6. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    tough to tell from the photos; how much cartwheel is there in the fields? significant luster breaks?
     
  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It's hard to grade this from these photos, but I believe that it has been polished. If you own it that's okay. If you are thinking about buying it, I would pass unless it's near melt.

    The key is the recognize mint luster. It's like the "cartwheel" you see when you swirl a Morgan Dollar under the light. If the luster is broken or coin only shines, it's a problem. Here is a photo that shows mint luster.

    This coin is graded PCGS MS-62, CAC.

    1891-CC half eagle O.jpg 1891-CC half eagle R.jpg
     
  8. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    I'm agreeing with others that it was cleaned.
     
  9. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Looks like it rolled around someone's pocket or purse also. Nice coin, cleaned, AU in my opinion. In your favor I hope I'm wrong. Thanks for sharing and good luck.
     
  10. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Do you suspect there may be tooling?
     
  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Something strikes me as It’s been tampered with in the past.
     
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  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I say yes if I had in hand to look over....a piece like this I advoid unless I can obtain it at spot.
    From the image its hard to make a honest call...but if the image represents what I see ...pass.
     
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  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Look at * 11 as well a few others...looks like medal moved

    The S shows signs of dirt oil in the loops yet other devices are clean
     
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  14. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I don't even try to grade gold coins, but other than lots of bag marks, and that strange halo around the star at 3 O'clock, it looks good to me as uncirculated.
     
  15. Tamaracian

    Tamaracian 12+ Yr Member--Supporter

    @Steve theButcher Gold is difficult to photograph properly; the lighting in these photos is harsh, and the sharpness is a little soft, so there is some guesswork on my part in thinking that it would grade AU55/58.

    IMO the coin has not been intentionally polished; I don't see any hairlines, and there is enough roughness in the fields that any abrasive polishing would have uniformly smoothed them.
     
  16. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    She's a pretty girl.
     
  17. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    I agree with Sal. The photos are a bit too bright. That said, it looks to be close to MS but a bit baggy to make brilliant. Still a coin I wouldn't mind owning.
     
  18. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Unless the glare is obscuring it there's no wear on that I'm seeing. It's pretty beat up, though. MS62 on the generous side, at least on those photos.
     
  19. I took a couple better pictures. 1885.JPG 1885s.JPG
     
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  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

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    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

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