Chuckle for a Friday Morning, Although it is Pretty Sad "MS61" $20 Gold...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Jack D. Young, Jan 28, 2022.

  1. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

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  3. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Good one Jack, listing reported.
     
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  4. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    But he's been selling for SO long - "Based in United States, 4jps67 has been an eBay member since Jan 26, 2022"
     
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  5. Jack D. Young

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  6. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    If there's one thing, we certainly have an overabundance of imbeciles and fools in this world to be bidding on such a painfully obvious fake.
     
  7. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    The listing has already been removed...
     
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  8. KBBPLL

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    I saw it, looked for it on that Chinese site to see if the pictures were taken from there, logged in to report it, and in that two minutes it was gone.
     
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  9. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I apologize for missing what you find "obvious", other than it is a legit numbered coin in an NGC holder.

    My recent eye surgery must be disabling me in viewing small images.

    I can only assume that you are seeing something that concerns me after purchasing a NGC high 4 digit value Gold coin again today.

    Is there a problem with the holder? Coin? TPG? Seller?

    If we don't notify the TPG, how is a potential consumer to be notified when investigating already slabbed coins? Send it to CAC who I believe has already shown disregard for TPG problems. I can (and have shown) technical AU coins in Gem slabs.

    JMHO
     
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  10. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    A cert # was put in the item description. There was no image of the coin in a slab. So the seller probably just found one from a previous sale and put the cert # into the description to make it seem legit.
     
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  11. KBBPLL

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    By the way here's a real one vs the subject coin. The date is a joke.
    1882_$20_real_vs_fake.jpg
     
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    The listing was incomplete. It should have specified whether there was milk or dark chocolate inside.
     
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  13. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Big difference....I'm not paying $780 for EITHER one. :mad:

    Now, if it has those krispie things like in the 100 Grand Bar, then we can talk. :cigar:

    CAC would help, of course. :D
     
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  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Hey, two days. What are you expecting?
     
  15. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I now understand why I wouldn't assume the coin as being unusual. I watch virtually all of the certified Double Eagles on a daily basis. There have so many different fonts over years, so I wouldn't know of that coins'. I believe if you just look at the Double Eagle eBay posts, because of the coins size, as I, with a microscope having a limit field of vision, shown coins are frequently either as an assembly, or without same.

    I'm just concerned that an authority as yourself doesn't report a perceived fraud in a slab, to the appropriate TPG.

    JMHO
     
  16. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I'm not an authority and I'm not sure how to make my post clearer. The subject coin was never in an NGC slab so there's nothing to report. The scammer merely stole a legitimate certificate number and put it in their description. Perhaps Jack's post is confusing - the image from the NGC site is a legitimate coin but it's not the coin in the ebay listing.
     
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  17. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Ah shucks! I was interested in that one. :hungover:

    It makes wonder when die work is that bad why they even bother.
     
  18. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    Thank you for the clarification, as I believed my post was directed to the O.P.. When the "feedback" was indicated, the picture became clearer.

    Yes, Jacks' post made the Ad appear as a legitimate coin sale.

    Duh! I definitely didn't apply the scrutiny that I apply when buying coins on eBay.

    JMHO
     
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  19. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Uh, OK; I showed an image of the listed gold "piece", an image of the actual listing with image, an image of the item specifics from the listing which referenced a good NGC cert #, and an image of the good cert; I suppose I could have included a side by side comparison of the bad Bay coin to the good NGC one but at least to me it seemed obvious:D.

    Sorry for any confusion...
     
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  20. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Supporter! Supporter

    I wouldn't be surprised if even the coin pictured wasn't taken from some place else and if it sold, the buyer would never receive ANYTHING and the seller would be long gone with their profits.
     
  21. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I do suspect even their images were taken from somewhere else, but if they're playing that game, why not just use images of a real coin in a real slab? Scammers are often not very bright though.
     
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