a different campgate

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  1. sky92880

    sky92880 Well-Known Member

    This coin from Constantinus II, struck in Trier, ric 7 nr 455, bust B4l, obv. constantinusivnnobc, rev. providen-tiaecaess, mintmark PTR, weight 2.67 gr, diameter 18.50 mm, thickness 1.66 mm has a peculiar filling in of all the stones in the camp gate. The star above it also looks more like a sphere as with the beata tranquillitas series.
    Maybe it was an artistic die cutter who made this?

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    Please feel free to post your strang campgate coins.

    Thanks, sky92880
     
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  3. ancient coin hunter

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  4. sky92880

    sky92880 Well-Known Member

    Nice gift, and in exellent condition! I like the way his hear is done.
     
  5. Heliodromus

    Heliodromus Well-Known Member

    Strange coin - very neat!

    My first thought is that it has to be unofficial because of those unusual elements, but if so it's extremely well done.
     
  6. sky92880

    sky92880 Well-Known Member

    Hi Ben,

    Thanks for your answer, you are probably right. The text on the front does end with nobc, it is difficult to read as both the o and the b have been changed. Given the well-formed text in front of it, I suspect that 2 people worked on it. When I read the text outer inside ( coin in hand ), it reads avc. Difficult to explain, but I can't capture it on a photo.
     
  7. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    same coin, but from the Nicomedia mint
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  9. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I have seen other official campgates with dots in the bricks before.
     
  10. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Does this qualify?

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  11. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Campgates are awesome! One of my first coins was this, showing Constantine with a funky 70's mullet.
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  12. cmezner

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    Reviving this older thread and sharing this :)

    I was just reading an abstract of Woods, D. (2017) 'The late Roman 'camp gate' reverse type and the sidus salutare', Numismatic Chronicle, 177, pp. 159-174 at
    https://cora.ucc.ie/handle/10468/9602?show=full.

    There he writes: "The so-called camp gate reverse type proved popular on late Roman coinage from the reign of Diocletian (284-305) until that of Valentinian III (425-55). It is argued here that the traditional description of the structure on these coins as a camp gate is incorrect, and that in the vast majority of cases it is a city gate."

    If this is correct, I'll have to change my descriptions of camp gate coins o_O
     
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  13. sky92880

    sky92880 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the link!
    What with the " signal tower " name ?
     
  14. cmezner

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    @sky92880 don't know what you mean by:
     
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