Capricorn (Dec. 21- January 21)

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  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Let’s see your capricorn-related coins and artifacts.

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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Fun idea for a thread and very nice coins, @lordmarcovan!

    The capricorn was the emblem of the city of Parium in Mysia, so many of the coins from this town have a capricorn on the reverse.

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    Cornelia Supera, wife of Aemelian, Augusta, 253 CE.
    Roman provincial Æ 20.5mm, 3.78 g, 7 h.
    Mysia, Parium, AD 253.
    Obv: G CORN SUPERA, diademed and draped bust right.
    Rev: C. G. I. H. P., Capricorn right, cornucopiae on back; globe between legs.
    Refs: RPC IX, 382; Sear GI 4408; SNG Von Aulock 7448.
    Notes: Sear describes as a star, but his exemplar in the British Museum depicts a globe with an equinoctial cross, giving it the appearance of a star.
     
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  4. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    SHOWSTOPING Vespasian:artist::wideyed:
    And very cool intaglio.
    I would love to see an imprint from it:rolleyes:
    A strangely desirous rarity of early Augustus Ihave laying around:
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    Rhoemetalkes I with Augustus (Circa 11 BC-12 AD). Ae.
    Obv: ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΥ.
    Fasces and capricorn right.
    Rev: ΡΟΙΜΕΤΑΛΚΟΥ.
    Male head right above curule chair, decorated with monogram.
    RPC I 1705; Jurukova 168.
    Rare
    Condition: Near very fine.
    Weight: 2.86 g.
    Diameter: 16 mm.
    Ex Savoca
     
  5. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

  6. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I no longer own this coin--is that cheating?--so I don't have all the specifics:
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    Gallienus

    Augustus, A.D. 253-268
    Billon Antoninianus
    Sole reign (A.D. 260-268)
    Rev: NEPTUNO CONS AVG - Capricorn, facing right.
     
  7. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    I have 2 coins .... with 3 capricorns. Both are among my favorites.

    I love the portrait and general aspect of this coin
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    Mysia, Kyzikos, 17 mm 3.2 g
    Bare head of Augustus, r. / ϹƐΒΑϹΤΟϹ, capricorn, l., with head turned back; monogram including ΖΚ
    RPC I, 2245, F.W. Hasluck, NC 1906, 27, no. 3, AMC 1183



    .... and a coin type I managed to lose 2 or 3 times, including one with superb details because I was too cheap. But this will do especially because of the portrait

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    Divus Vespasian after AD 79. Rome
    Denarius AR
    19 mm, 2,71 g
    RIC II, Part 1 (second edition) Titus 357;OLD RIC II Titus 63; RSC Titus 497
    Date Range: AD 80 - AD 81
    Obv: DIVVS AVGVSTVS VESPASIANVS, Head of Divus Vespasian, laureate, right / Rev: Capricorns, left and right, back to back, supporting round shield inscribed S C; globe, below
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    TITUS
    Fouree Denarius
    OBVERSE: CAES VESPAS AVG TR P COS III, Laureate head right
    REVERSE: Foreparts of two capricorns springing in opposing directions, supporting round shield inscribed S C; globe below
    Struck at Rome, 80/1AD
    3.06g, 18mm
    RIC II 357 (Titus); RSC 497
     
  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    You are correct. My birthday was December 28th. My mother was a Capricorn as well (b. January 4th), so I gave her that ring seven years ago. She just died on December 23, and we were closing her house and dispersing her worldly possessions on Christmas and my birthday. We’ll have her memorial on Zoom on the 4th, which would have been her 78th birthday.

    So both her entrance and exit were under the sign of Capricorn. (Not that either of us set any store by astrology. It was just a fun fact that we shared the same sign, is all.)

    Last night I suddenly remembered that ring, and sent a concerned text message out to my sisters warning them what it was, and not to let it accidentally get cast off with Mom’s costume jewelry, lest it go unrecognized due to its rather plain appearance by modern standards. Happily, my sister Elizabeth has it, and Mom had kept my original note with it.

    I had acquired the ring under rather interesting circumstances, as recounted in the OP of the Artifacts thread.
     
  10. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    Capricorns:

    Divus Vespasian AR Denarius, 80 AD Rome Mint. Obv. Laureate head right, DIVVS AVGVSTVS VESPASIANVS / Rev. Foreparts of two capricorns springing in opposite directions, supporting round shield inscribed S C; globe below. RSC II Vespasian 497 (ill.), RIC II-1 Titus 357 (2007), old RIC II Titus 63 (1926), Sear RCV I Titus 2569 (ill.), BMCRE Titus 129. 17 mm., 2.84 g., 6 h.

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    Julia Paula (first wife of Elagabalus), AE 21, 219-220 AD, Mysia, Parium [Parion in Greek]. Obv. Draped and diademed bust right, IVLIA P-AVLA AVG / Rev. Capricorn right, holding globe between hooves, cornucopia above, CGIHP [Colonia Gemella Ivlia Hadriana Pariana -- colony founded by Julius Caesar] below. RPC [Roman Provincial Coinage] Vol. VI, 3858 (temporary); RPC Online at https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/6/3858; Lindgren & Kovacs 289 [Lindgren, H.C. & Kovacs, F.L., Ancient Bronze Coins of Asia Minor and the Levant (San Mateo, CA 1985). 21 mm., 5.67 g., 10 h. (Purchased from VAuctions, Pars Coins, Sale 354, Lot 195, Nov. 16, 2020.)

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  11. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    L.M. Please accept my condolences for your loss. I don't put a lot of stock in zodiac signs either but many people do. My mother was born under the Aries sign as was I & my twin brother :happy:. My brother was really into astrology & the occult :rolleyes:.
     
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  12. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

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    Augustus, denarius...
     
  13. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    @lordmarcovan my sincere condolences for your recent loss, I know very well how one feels when one loved one is not anymore with us.

    It gives comfort to think they are now safely on the other shore, to borrow a Buddhist concept, and that they dwell gently "in that place where there is no time." and as they say in a Jewish prayer: "May you know no more sorrow”.

    A Capricorn in your mother's honor:
    Antoninianus, Rome, 267 - 268 AD, mintmark digamma ς = 6th officina
    18 x 22mm, 2.668 g
    RIC V 245; RSC 667-670; Sear [1988] 2982; Göbl 732b (21 spec.); SRC 10293;

    GALLIENVS AVG Head of Gallienus, radiate, r. /NEPTVNO CONS (AVG) Capricorn r., ς in ex.
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  14. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    @gsimonel I think that on your Antoninianus reverse there is a hippocampus, a rarer reverse than the Capricorn. The hippocampus is usually associated with the legend naming Neptune.
     
  15. sky92880

    sky92880 Well-Known Member

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    Here a divus vespasianus, ( coins of the Roman empire in the British museum vol. II ), Titus nr 132, plate 47.9.
    3.52 gr, 17.82 mm
     
  16. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I believe you are correct. It does look more like the head of a horse than that of a goat. Thanks for the correction.
     
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  17. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Gallienus AE Antoninianus

    Capricorn or hippocamp?

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  19. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    @cmezner, @gsimonel, and @ancient coin hunter, it's easy to tell the Gallienus zoo series Capricorn from the Hippocamp. Both have reverse legends naming Neptune, but the Capricorn has very distinct goat horns, as opposed to the Hippocamp's much shorter horse ears, and, sometimes, a visible mane. Also, the Hippocamp is always officina 9 (signifiied by an N), while the Capricorn is always officina 6 (indicated by a sigma). Finally, the Hippocamp is actually more common and can face either left or right; the Capricorn is rather scarce and faces only right. Most of the Gallienus capricorns one sees are part of the legionary series, not the zoo series. See my chart of all the zoo series types at https://www.cointalk.com/threads/gallienus-zoo-series.388656/#post-7996973.

    I don't have a zoo series Capricorn, but here's my Hippocamp. As you can see, no goat horns!

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  21. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I think you will find that most of those Gallienus capricorns -- I just counted 67 of the 75 most recently sold, on the first page of the ACSearch results -- are from the legionary series (with the LEG number on the reverse instead of NEPTVNO), not the zoo series. Only 8 are from the zoo series. By contrast, a search for Gallienus hippocamp yields 104 results (not 2), all of them, I believe, from the zoo series. That's consistent with the fact that I seem to see the hippocamps for sale more often than the capricorns from the zoo series. And with the fact that many so-called capricorns of the Gallienus zoo series for sale are actually hippocamps. For example, there are six so-called Gallienus capricorns for sale on MA-Shops. Every single one of the six is clearly a hippocamp. I haven't checked V-Coins, but I suspect that the same problem occurs there as well. And/or the problem of supposed zoo series capricorns actually being legionary series capricorns.
     
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