1830 CBH Large vs Small Letters, attribution

Just to be sure small letters correct? I give up trying to attribute this. Anyone want to take a shot?
Any ideas to remove the carbon spots? Acetone did nothing.

 

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Yes. This is the small letters variety.

 

Looks small to me. Confusing though because the first small letters I pulled up (labeled O-105) definitely has large letters.

Looks like O-106 from a quick glance by a non Bust Half guy.

Looks like it might share a reverse with O-118 but a different obverse. I can't find a O-123 Comp.

 

Something to keep in mind. There is only 1 1832 large letter reverse die and all known coins struck from it have a gash on the left wing.

 

Oh, BTW, the OP's coin is O-106.

 

GOT IT RIGHT! I was initially confused by the wide and narrow gaps between the words that usually indicted LL or SL on other series. But it was not letter size, but spacing.

 

Perhaps you can explain to me how this was determined to have larger letters than the rest. I can't see a difference other than spacing like the rest.

 

I don't know about the Variety but those carbon spots are here to stay my friend.JMO

 

If it is an impaired PROOF, even with the carbon spots it is a valuable coin. But I have no idea how you can determine that. The proofs in those days used the same dies as the production issues. But that variety is one of those known to have been used to produce PROOFS.

 

she is purty

 

225,000 for a pf-65 cameo

 

I would send it in to NCS to have the spots removed if possible. The coin has a nice look and it would be a shame to damage it from a cleaning try that didn't work.

 

Agreed.
From Daves Bust Half Dollar site;

Variety Attribution: Obverse-Stars are small and sharp. Star 1 has extra lines between the lowest 3 star points. Date is 8 1/4 mm. awell formed and well centered.

Reverse- 50 C. is 1 1/2 mm. and high. Short thick top on 5. Arrow to A is 1/2 mm. Left side of T and right side of I in line. Line 1 of stripe 2 and line 2 of stripe 4 extend to crossbar 2. A fine die line almost connects the bases of T-E in STATES.

 

I would not worry about the tiny spots. That is one beautiful coin. Thanks for sharing it. Happy New Year!

 

From the entries above, the coin must be very valuable and very collectable. Be careful with it and don't let it get out of YOUR hands. I don't know if I would send it off to be "cleaned" until I had found out that there is a fool proof way of getting those spots off. Thanks for showing us your beautiful coin.

 

It's probably worth sending in for authentication. The stars are so sharp it actually make me suspicious. If Authentic, it has the sharpest detail including the proofs at least for the stars.

But counterfeiters usually either copy a mother coin with a transfer die or make their own die and miss attribution points entirely. I'm used to dealing on the other end of the spectrum with AG Details stuff, so you can probably get better advice from high end collectors.

 

Our prayers are with you.

 

The well defined stars are part of the attribution. Read my above

 

I was comparing it to past sales of the variety on Heritage. But you could just have better photos. It helps not being imaged through plastic.

 

Try Daves Bust Half Dollar web site