1798 Large Cent...probably

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  1. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    This Large cent came to me as part of a pot in a poker game this week. It was accepted at $25 for the pot after consideration that it was between a Fr-2 and an FR-2.5 from the other players (this is not an endorsement of gambling). But with all that here is the coin, what we believed to be a 1798 with the reverse of 1797. We aren't sure what style hair it is, but if any of you large cent collectors want to chime in with a sheldon number feel free to.
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  3. PFCBEGA

    PFCBEGA Staff Numismatist HA.com

    Dang, How do i get into your poker games!? lol great lookin coin, just honest to god wear. very cool


    -Russ
     
  4. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I lean towards a S-174, mainly cause the C in Cent has a sharp point. I can't be real sure though. Nice hand to win.
     
  5. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    +1 or better yet if you guys play sheepshead. nice reward.
     
  6. HULL COINS

    HULL COINS Member

  7. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Yes, Please deal me in as well :)
     
  8. Searcher64

    Searcher64 Member

    The "N" in one is doubled also. Nice :)-O)
     
  9. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    I have a friend in Iowa...and I'd love to get into that game :D
    I bet you even bluffed them out to win that!
    :p
     
  10. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    full house on that win, honest
     
  11. cerdsalicious

    cerdsalicious BigShot

    triple jacks double aces huh? lol
    Thats always my favorite win combo jack and aces.
    But regardless nice win, great hand.
     
  12. Art

    Art Numismatist?

    That's a terrific prize. Should your conscience become troubled over gambling you can sent that little doll of to me as repentance.
     
  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Definitely S-174
     
  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Can I ask what convinced you? Just curious if it was something other than the C.
     
  15. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I originally had a problem identifying it as a S-174, but I now concur. The break on the reverse is in a middle die state and the terminal state (which I used for comparison) has a strong Incusion of the top of Liberty's head up to the middle of the numerator which threw me off. The incusion of the obverse ribbon and the break between the left ribbon and the bottom of the U match.

    The inside bottom of the left foot of the N in CENT appeared damaged similar to the damaged N punch from elsewhere in the series, but in this case it may be post minting damage.
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    What Marshall mentioned about the breaks on the reverse (up to the left of the fraction causing the die to sink and the fraction to disappear, and the crack from the left ribbon to the U.) and the heavy die clash on the reverse. The die clash is what pointed me toward S-174, but other varieties might show clashes as well, but the crack from the ribbon end to the U clinched it. It is almost a perfect match for the coin pictured in the Breen book except the coin in the book doesn't show the sinking of the fraction as much.
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    What Marshall mentioned about the breaks on the reverse (up to the left of the fraction causing the die to sink and the fraction to disappear, and the crack from the left ribbon to the U.) and the heavy die clash on the reverse. The die clash is what pointed me toward S-174, but other varieties might show clashes as well, but the crack from the ribbon end to the U clinched it. It is almost a perfect match for the coin pictured in the Breen book except the coin in the book doesn't show the sinking of the fraction as much.
     
  18. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Wow guys, thanks for the assist. I am really just happy to have a pre-1800 coin in my collection. I think every type collector needs at least one.
     
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