GTG: 1853 Great Britain Proof Halfcrown

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by 7Jags, Dec 19, 2021.

  1. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    OK, here is another, and sad it has to be photos and not "in hand" but what are we to do? I wish I had a bigger blowup but FYI the grade limiters are usually hairlines which I do not detect. Anyway, what might look like a scratch(es) on the obverse is on the plastic so I tried to show this by angle shots; also, what looks to be field rub in the darker photos is not but rather toning.:

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  3. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Here is obverse of tempImage6xwFD1.png a graded Proof 64 Cameo:
     
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  4. GH#75

    GH#75 Trying to get 8 hours of sleep in 4. . .

    I want to say PF-65, but the toning looks off as if it had been cleaned.
     
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  6. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Probably 62 given you look like it should have gone higher. I was tempted to say Good ;)

    Much easier not to get uptight about someone else's opinion. Acceptable and unacceptable seems to work for me.
     
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  8. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Oh, Rob fountain of wizdom! Maybe you ought to write a book, seriously. My guess based on pictures alone is 64 but on a US coin of similar vintage and presentation probably up 2 points...
     
  9. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Very few people buy books these days. Everybody wants the info, but expects it to be available free online - which is ok until the website is revamped and the info lost.

    As for the coin. There's nothing wrong with the toning. I can't see any nicks, scratches or anything obviously wrong, so would be guessing 64. If a named collection, maybe the label would have a bearing on the grade given the tendency to be a tad lenient with 'bigger' names.
     
  10. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Indeed my sentiments with regards to the latter.
     
  11. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Well, it was an ordinary "62". As I would likely one day resell it here, will likely have to try to get it regraded in hopes of a bigger sale price (not any time soon I hope).
     
  12. serdogthehound

    serdogthehound Well-Known Member

    65 and will go Cam
     
  13. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Yes, in hand does support that. I am mystified by some of the grading - I have been collecting Victorian silver currency and proof for over 30 years and have consulted as well as bought from the best, and even for greater than 15 years managed the Krause predecimal 19th and 20th C. series. I have run some of these coins past some of the most respected specialists who have concurred. I may post one of the 1839 Halfcrowns in proof DC that was similarly graded...
     
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  15. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    This coin grade also a shocker…..in hand it ducks all the caveats including hairlines - there are a few micro dust pits on the die and even a couple of oxidation spots, the “scratches” on neck are also on die. It is my coin but bought for its quality that in hand matches the graded “67DC”.
     
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