Can anyone help ID these two totally troublesome trachea?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by robinjojo, Dec 18, 2021.

  1. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Troublesome for me, at least. I got a group lot of AE Byzantine coins, and these two coins were included. I've had success identifying most, but I'm stumped with these two coins. The second coin I suspect is a crude imitation of some sort, but given the crude nature of these late coins, maybe not.

    3.32 grams

    D-Camera Byzantine AE trachy need help 3.32g Roma 89 grp 12-18-21.jpg



    2.05 grams

    D-Camera Byzantine AE trachy need help 2 2.40g Roma 89 grp 12-18-21.jpg

    I oriented the obverse to what I think is appropriate, but it is an approximation on my part.

    Thanks
     
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  3. DiomedesofArgos

    DiomedesofArgos Well-Known Member

  4. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    On the first one based on the weight I believe it is a small module Latin Imitative piece. I went to my copy of Michael Hendy's "Coingage and Money In The Byzantine
    Empire."
    That being said, because of so many issues in this period by Imperial and Latin coinage, it could be a real challenge to identify with certainty. I love the triangular beard of the "emperor" it is a really interesting piece. I've had several in my collection that have no possible catalogue entries that I know of. Fun Stuff.
     
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  5. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I do see similarities.

    Thank you.

    Yes, this is a very challenging type to identify definitively. That's part of the fun collecting these and other more obscure coins.
     
  6. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    Fun, flolic, and it certainly as the ability to inspire manic behavior. Ain't it great.

    Cheers to all.
     
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  7. BenSi

    BenSi Well-Known Member

    I was working on Latins this evening; your coin seems to be similar to one of them I was working on but besides the emperor's attire not enough details of your coin is showing to give it any certainty. SBCV-2056
    To be honest I only work on the ones with enough detail to try to solve the puzzle.

    The best reference for this is CLBC (Catalogue of the late Byzantine Coins.) It has very good line drawings to assist in attributing.

    Here is my example I believe is SBCV-2056. The coin I attributed tonight.
    a3.jpg
     
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