Recent Pick-up Birmingham: 1845 Crown

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by marbury518, Dec 15, 2021.

  1. marbury518

    marbury518 Marbury

    Purchased this in the North West Midlands recently. I was impressed with the clear fields, and lack of hairlines. I think the obverse is aEF....but the reverse is better. Looks uncleaned to me and no reflective surfaces. Scans taken with natural light and artificial light...camera not great. 100_6459.JPG 100_6459.JPG 100_6459.JPG 100_6462.JPG 100_6465.JPG
     

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  3. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Very, very nice. These are difficult to grade but think you may be a bit conservative with the AEF business as it looks def. a full EF at least in the pictures.
    If ever for sale, do let me know. LOL!

    Relatively few bag marks and typical soft strike to the shield details (lions, etc.).
     
  4. marbury518

    marbury518 Marbury

    Thanks for the reply......the reverse looks better in hand for some reason......will let you know if it has to go.
     
  5. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Appreciate your conservative grading, and again as I love Victorian silver that is a nice coin.
     
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  6. marbury518

    marbury518 Marbury

    Maybe not conservative as I am using UK grading..........extremely fine in US parlance is below an AU50......so pretty low.
     
  7. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    I don't know if it's the lighting but, the coin has an even light gray color to it. Normally, you don't see a coin of this age looking like that. Nice surfaces but, looks washed out to me.
     
  8. whopper64

    whopper64 Well-Known Member

    Nice coin! A definite keeper. Don't have one of those and I'm collecting for my daughter for historic and genealogical purposes. Remember though, since this is almost Christmas and I've been a good boy, it would be nice to give rather than receive! lol
     
  9. marbury518

    marbury518 Marbury

    My rationale was grade and lack of gouges, scuffs, and hairlines.....not sure how to operationalise 'washed out.'
     
  10. jgenn

    jgenn World Crown Collector

    Is there really no remaining luster, even in protected areas?
     
  11. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Storage conditions critical IMO. Also, may not be the best light - I've seen a number similar and were not problematic. May have been dipped strongly and retoned in this fashion.
     
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  12. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

    There are plenty of marks ( in front of the bust ) & ( behind neck )
    Some scratches on the Reverse too.
    Not sure about the overall patchy appearance of the surface either.

    Pictures in better light would help ;)
     
  13. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    I see a small planchet defect to left of nose but precious few marks for a cartwheel coin of this size - perhaps review some Morgan dollars to see plenty of the latter...
     
  14. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    The coin has few marks, and the surfaces look good. However, the washed-out look is likely from being dipped. There doesn't seem to be any luster left. It looks more like aluminum than silver. No matter what it's still a nice coin for its age.
     
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