[ancients] Happy Birthday Diocletian!!

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  1. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    dang...double post...sorry.
     
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  3. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    got my diocletian yesterday! was needing a diocletian and an alexandrian tet, so got two birds with one stone.

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    i was surprised how thick this is...are all the alexandrian tets like this?

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    diocletian
    year 5 (L barely visible left of reverse, E right...288-289 ad)
    ae tetradrachm

    o:Α Κ Γ ΟΥΑΛ ∆ΙΟΚΛΗΤΙΑΝΟC CΕΒ

    rev: alexandria holding head of serapis and scepter, L E across fields, star above E.
    bmc 1956, curtis 1956

    9.1 g
    18 mm
     
  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The coin has a lot going for it. The legends are more clear than many and the holding head reverse is decent. Chunky becomes more of a feature with theese later coins but Alexandrian tets never were thin.
     
  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    great lookin' coin => yah, all of my Alexandria TETs are all chunky and very "Alexandria-distinctive" looking!! (I absolutely love the look/style!!)
     
  6. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    Yeah the thickness is a big happy, happy, happy!
     
  7. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    cool, I'm going to have to get some more of these. they feel great in hand....nice weight to them.
    vlaha...yours is just great.
     
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  8. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Here is the only Diocletian I have.. Diocl O 001.jpg Diocl R 001.jpg
     
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  9. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    diocletian-london6a.jpg

    Diocletian AE Follis. London mint, ca 298-300 AD. 10g, 28.18mm

    OBV: IMP C DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG, laureate & cuirassed bust right.

    REV: GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI, Genius standing left, holding patera in extended right hand & cradling cornucopiae in left arm. No mintmark.

    REF: RIC VI London 6A.
     
  10. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    I like every Stevex6 post I come by. Every time I come across one I am more and more sad that I never got to share posts with this one of a kind character with an excellent and diverse pallet for ancients.
    Thanks for the res-erection:eek:
     
  11. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    I'd also like to take a second to point out that @dougsmit was taking micro photographs like this back in 2013!
    5ddiopotn.jpg
    I haven't seen anyone, to date, take as fine photos of ancients. And that includes the major auction houses.
    I aspire to have this kind of ability to capture ancients.
    "example of what $10 would buy in 2001" makes me wish I was more nerd and less lurid 1 year out of high school. Excellent coin.
    To keep it legal, my Diocletian... sellers photos:happy:
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  12. IMP Shogun

    IMP Shogun Well-Known Member

  13. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Let's never forget Big-Dio's big cabbages, which he used as an excuse to be pulled out of retirement by Maxie-Boy.

    According to legend, when Maximian petitioned Diocletian out of retirement, Diocletian replied something to the effect of, "if you could see the cabbages I've grown, you'd understand why your request is impossible."
    Diocletian AE Follis RIC VI Serdics 15a B.JPG

    This coin is a bit low grade, but for like $10 in a group lot I'll take it as representative of the abdication issue.

    Diocletian Tetradrachm Milne 5051.JPG
    This one is one of my favorites, mainly due to the lovely blue-green malachite/azurite patina. Gorgeous.
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Ryro is too kind but the statement actually is hurtful to me also because I am unable today to take photos as well as I did when that Diocletian was shot. I have excuses including my inability to find coins that are as photogenic and my tendency to try too hard to correct problem A while messing up B, C and D. My failure rate is greater than it once was. I am afraid to try to shoot some of the more photogenic coins again knowing I would fail. My cameras are better but my eyesight and attention to detail have slipped. Do note there is a big difference between photogenic coins a high grade coins. I have photos I really like of worn out old coins and fail to handle some of my few 'better' coins. 'People' photographers pay for professional models. Perhaps I need to put an ad in the paper for beautiful models of the denarius clan. However, the idea is not to make an ugly coin look good but to make an image that shows truth without being excessively graphic about the faults.

    Lately I have been playing with super macro where sharp focus is difficult but arranging lighting is much harder. Tiny changes in angle make huge differences. This was yesterday's flop. I posted the whole Divus Galerius in other threads. This is the eagle atop the tomb on the reverse. Dust is killing me. This image shows my failure to wipe the coin clean as much as it does the scraping above the bird. Perhaps I need to go back to coins I have had longer that might show something worth shooting so closely but this was what was at hand. ru4065aa2479rxmac.jpg
     
  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's another abdication follis for cabbage-man.

    Diocletian (A.D. 284-305) AE Follis

    Weight: 6.90 grams

    Diameter: 23 mm

    Mint: Follis struck at Alexandria (ALE Mintmark) between 308 and 310, after his abdication.

    Obverse: DN DIOCLETIANO BAEATISS, laurel-wreathed bust right wearing mantle, holding olive branch and holding mappa in the other hand.

    Reverse: PROVIDENTIA DEORVM, Providentia standing right, extending right hand to Quies, standing left, holding branch and sceptre.

    Reference: Sear 12922, RIC VI Alexandria 80 corr.

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  16. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Diocletian, Annona on reverse
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  17. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Here is a website about the title "DN":
    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/tetrarchy/DN.html

    The short answer is "Yes".

    Maximian2PROVIDENTIADEORVMobvBEATISSIMO1615.jpeg
    Maximian, retirement issue
    27-26 mm. 9.79 grams.
    DN MAXIMIANO BAEATISSIMO SEN AVG
    PROVIDENTIA DEORVM QVIES AVGG

    S F in fields (Saeculi Felicitas?)
    PTR in exergue

    RIC VI Trier 673b "1 May 305-early 307"
     
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  18. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    This is my only coin of Diocletian, an abdication follis, post reform from Antioch, officina Z, 308 AD

    10.5 grams

    D-Camera Diocletian Abdication follis post refrom,officina Z 308 AD, Antioch 10.5 g  01-05-21.jpg
     
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