An odd typo on Claudius II

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  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I picked up this rather nice, highly silvered Claudius II ant. The silvering here is rather bright and excessive, and I wouldn't be surprised if this were rather tin or some other substance that isn't silver. But it's neat.

    I tried to attribute it via Wildwinds, but I noticed that the reverse seems not to exist, and is a typo of something else.

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    The reverse clearly says
    LIBERITAS AVG

    This doesn't seem to match any examples on WW
    There are:
    LIBERALITAS AVG
    VBERITAS AVG
    LIBERT AVG

    This reverse seems to combine VBERITAS with LIBERT, for a word that I don't even know to exist on Claudius II? Maybe I'm missing something.
     
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  3. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    LIBERITAS (AVG?)
     
  4. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    Apparently, LIBERITAS is a legitimate alternate spelling of LIBERTAS. Compare RIC V.1, 184. There are 5 varieties of LIBERITAS AVG for Claudius II in the RIC V revision online, all attributed to Siscia.

    Interesting!

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  5. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    It's VBERITAS AVG, Uberitas standing left, holding purse and cornucopiae.
     
  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I don’t see any field marks. Interesting indeed
     
  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Did they simply misspell it then? Because the text is unequivocally LIBERITAS
     
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  9. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    It's not misspelled. It's LIBERITAS as intended. See here.
     
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  10. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Sorry I missed the bus on this. Thanks for clarifying
     
  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I stand corrected.
     
  12. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    WELL FOLKS.

    I made an OOPSIE.

    This coin is freaking Aurelian, not Claudius.

    Doesn't help, because LIBERITAS AVG doesn't show up on Wildwinds under Aurelian, either.

    Gotta admit, that portrait really didn't look like Aurelian.
     
  13. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Here’s one from acsearch that I think is like yours:
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    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=46909

    Google translation of the French listing (with some translation errors):
    AURELIEN (07/270-09/275)

    Lucius Domitius Aurelianus

    Antoninian October - November 270 N° brm_106811

    Date: October - November 270

    Name of the workshop: Siscia

    Metal: log

    Diameter: 21.00mm

    Corner axis: 6 hours.

    Weight: 3.69g.

    Degree of rarity: R3

    State of conservation: APC+

    Comments on the state of conservation: Broad flan. Beautiful portrait. Pretty smooth green patina / Slightly off-center lapel. Price: 115,00 € N° in reference works: ROME 10. /441 - RIC.5-1206 - LV.1126 - Gِbl157 e0 - La Venèra. II.1/5923 (1 ex.)

    Reverse title: IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG.

    Obverse description: Radiated, draped and battleship bust of Aurélien on the right, seen three quarters forward (A).

    Averse translation: "Imperator Cوsar Aurelianus Augustus", (The Caesar Emperor Aurelian Augustus).

    Reverse title: LIBERITAS AV-G.

    Reverse description: Libertas (La Liberté) draped, standing from the front looking left, holding a pileus in his right hand and a cornucopia in the left.

    Reverse translation: "Liberitas (sic) Augusti", (The Freedom of the August).

    Commentary on this copy: Only one such copy in La Venèra's catalog. History: Aurélien was born around 207 in Sirmium. After a brilliant military career, he was proclaimed august at Sirmium after the death of Claudius II and remained the only emperor after Quintille's suicide. He made the painful decision to abandon Dacia in 271 and then attacked Zenobia and Vaballath by seizing Palmyra in 272. Then, he undertook the reconquest of the Gaulish empire and defeated Tetricus at Châlons-sur-Marne. He triumphed in Rome and gave life to his distinguished prisoners. He was murdered while preparing a campaign against the Sassanids to reconquer Mesopotamia
     
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  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    You’ve killed it. Amazing. You’re the best
     
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  16. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    That's a really great website. I'm so accustomed to Wildwinds that if I don't find it there, I'm dead in the water.
     
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