1956cent...BIE

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  1. dollar

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    It's a LIIBIERTY
    Nice one. Thanks for sharing!
     
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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    As Paddyman told you.
     
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  5. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    Still, it is known as a "BIE". All chips of that type around LIBERTY are generally called BIE's. It could be a ILIBIEIRITIYI and it would still be called a BIE because that's the most common form of that type of die error.
     
  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    That's a lamination trying to get loose
     
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  7. Mountain Man

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    Boy, that poor cent got a lot of minting problems, didn't it?
     
  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Nah.. I disagree :yawn:
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  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    There is specific reason they are called BIE’s. Just because they have die chips in places in LIBERTY other than between the BE doesn’t make them a BIE error.
     
  10. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    You guys are incorrect. No matter where in LIBERTY the die chip or whatever is present, they are called BIEs. Cohen and Hardy both set that as a standard. IIB or RIT, etc are considered "varieties" of BIE.

    @paddyman98 was disingenuous by clipping just the image of LIBERTY from the COC site. It's also poor copyright behavior as he should have cited the source. This is particularly egregious since the top of the page the image came from supports my point. Take a look at it here:

    http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-cent-bies/
     
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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Sheesh.. Oh boy..
    I actually didn't clip that image. Someone else did.
    I found it using google.
    But thanks for the reprimand :vomit:
    I hope I don't get banned for life :hilarious:

    Well whatever it's called its neat.

    I see they are labeled each one as a Variety

    Lincoln Die Break, II-F-1: “ILI” Variety
    Lincoln Die Break, II-F-2: “LII” Variety
    Lincoln Die Break, II-F-3: “IIB” Variety
    Lincoln Die Break, II-F-4: “BIE” Variety
    Lincoln Die Break, II-F-5: “EIR” Variety
    Lincoln Die Break, II-F-6: “RIT” Variety
    Lincoln Die Break, II-F-7: “TIY” Variety
    Lincoln Die Break, II-F-8: “TYI” Variety

    @rmpsrpms Do you have any examples?
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2021
  12. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    Used to have hundreds of these when I was CRHing wheaties bags in the 70's. Kept a couple from my birth year, sold the rest to Alan Herbert
     
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  13. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    I do have quite a few, especially 1955-S. I've "discovered" a couple as well, such as the LDB4-1955S-008B 4EL+ shown on this page on COC:

    http://cuds-on-coins.com/ldb4-1955s-2/

    I have photographed many of mine and put them on my website here:

    http://www.macrocoins.com/bies-in-high-res.html

    I've also shot a few in High Resolution and posted them on EasyZoom for folks to view. Here are some nice ones:

    1956-D RPM#1 with BIE. This one is very rare:
    https://easyzoom.com/image/295182/album/0/4?mode=manage

    1955-S Cohen BIE 650. This is the "largest" BIE in the series, and is nicknamed the "Sausage":
    https://easyzoom.com/image/277499/album/0/4?mode=manage

    1954-S RIT variety:
    https://easyzoom.com/image/130697/album/0/4?mode=manage

    1955-S Cohen B603. One of the more common 55-S BIE's:
    https://easyzoom.com/image/125304/album/0/4?mode=manage
     
  14. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I'm sad, everyone is right but me. I thought it was a quarter, gee-whiz.
     
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  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It’s okay, just don’t go to years about it.
     
  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    According to Coneca:BIE die break
    This is a sub-category of the die break affecting the letters of LIBERTY on the Lincoln cent. Technically, only a die break between BE of LIBERTY qualifies as a BIE. Generically speaking, however, a die break between any of the letters of LIBERTY qualifies. This variety was termed the “BIE” because that is where the vast majority of die breaks occur. This area of collecting was again the rage in the 1960s, but waned when the obverse die was modified and there were fewer specimens to collect. However, recent years have seen a new crop of this variety showing up and an increased interest.

    Coneca specifically states “technically” and “generally”. You are speaking in a general sense, we are not. All of your reference are BIE with the exception of one listed as a RIT variety.
     
  17. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    CONECA does not even list BIEs, so are not the authority on the subject. COC and the classic references by Cohen and Hardy are the governing authority.
     
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