1964 D- EX-rare lincoln cent 1964 D "4 point CUD Mud slide" ERROR

Why are there 2 threads about this same coin?

Also....

If this is true, then you really should know better than to not even be considering something this common. "4 point CUD mud slide error"??? Call it whatever you want, even with the self-appointed error name you gave it, it's STILL just post mint damage.

If you deal (or collect....not sure by what you mean by 'deal' in) "rare or Unique errors" and ARE considering this coin, boy, I've got some "rare or Unique error" coins for you. I'll give you a great deal on some of them! I only say this as I think your 'guy' knows not what he speaks of, if he's convinced you this is a "rare or Unique error". Sorry, but truth is truth.

 

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I disagree with the jewelry theory. If you look at the lightened pics i posted you can see where the metal that was raised was scraped off the coin in a clockwise twist. I believe this was used as some sort of a shim, but how it was caused is irrelevent as this is just damage and worthless. there is no way this occured at the Mint.

 

Here we have another funny men who doesn't know what an error is:whistle: is a double strike or broadstrike or off centre a good coin to be sent out for circulation? or is it that a damage coin that is inspected and if found to be falty or damage be sent for melting? it is , and no error or damaged coins should leave the mint but some do and the ones they find ...they destroy them! they melt them because they are ...DAMAGED or FALTY.
this error or mint press error just like any other error out there that should had been melted have cleared the Mint and therefore they are WORTHY.

 

really , ok you find me this type error with 4 little mountains that was processed that way from the print and I'll give you $10k . I could say I'll give you 1 million and it wouldn;t matter cause all you could findme for an error is a typical error such as an off strike....wow an off strike..what an error that is..what a mechanicl problem that did this little off centre error...wow. Look these little 4 mountains with that wipe is UNCOMMON and I haven't seen one but if you do than it's probably in your dreams but yes you can show me your common errors such as the broadstikes or the off centre or the double die or lamination error but hey ! wake up , this error ...have you seen one like this before?:whistle:

 

The difference between what you have and a Double Strike, Broad strike, Off center strike, Cud or any other error is that all the others can be explained how they occured at the mint. They aren't post mint as they occur at the moment of striking. Yours is definately post mint as is evidenced by the fact that the damage on the obverse runs through the details whic occur at the point of striking and obliterates them.

 

If you don't want our opinion, don't ask for it. Apparently you are going to believe what you want to believe.

BTW, those "4 copper dots" are exactly why it did not come from any press at the mint.

 

I know what an error is. Broadstruck and double-struck coins, when genuine, can be proven to come from the mint. Cuds, when genuine, come from the mint. What is not being proven in this thread is that your coin came to be in its current condition at the mint. It COULD have been damaged outside of the mint, which means that, IF this is the case, it commands no premium among collectors, regardless of your insistence. Re-read my original post and you will see that this is the same thing I said there. IF and only IF your coin did incur this damage at the mint, then yes, it is worthy of the "error" label. Without such proof, however, you cannot expect people to take you at face value, if you'll pardon the pun.

I am not saying you are wrong, just that you have no proof one way or the other.

 

I bet it wouldn't make it into an ANACS net graded slab. Maybe if PCI were still in business, or SGS........

 

We haven't seen an "error" like this before because it is NOT an error it is merely damage.

 

There is definate proof that the damage happened post mint. The details on the obverse were obliterated by the damage and therefor it had to happen AFTER the coin was struck

Richard

 

I almost don't want to touch this thread but.. IMHO I would say POST MINT On the Obverse..
Not sure about the "Cuds" But POST MINT on Obverse is DAMAGE and NOT a good thing.
If those are Cuds then cool.. for Cuds.. Not a Super Value but Cool

 

Not cuds, You can see the scrape marks tore counterclockwise direction where the copper was lifted and deposited in those blobs

 

Dude.. IT DIDN'T happen at the mint..

 

Oh ya.. I can see.. It is NOTHING..
It is sad to hear the truth for some edited you called it right...

 

sometimes you feel like a nut...sometimes....

 

This is a really good question and I have been thinking about this one and let me tell you that as you may know already if you have been stuying error coins and their mechanical problematic mathematic process then you know that the print does have is fault and makes some incredible errors. The truth is I haven't seen anything like this before, when I first saw the coin i thought that someone used is a an add- on for a pendant, meaning that this coin was somewhat an important coin , a memorable gift or time that was handed to them or a likewise special penny that meant something to that person and hence had it sent to a jewerler and have 4 little dot of copper melted on the penny and then set on a pendant but then I looked at it with my microscope and found that the 4 bumps were all turned clockwise and portion of the copper were wiped to form the bumps , I really thought at first that the penny was damaged but then soon realised that this was a Mint error , a mechanical error which did this to the penny, I really honestly couldn;t tell you how this happen except that it was somehow forced or pushed IN the barrel with more force or velocity than normaly used to inpress the print on the coin. More force than required ..that is my opinion on this error.

 

There is no need for me to show you one like that, because I don't have a '4 point CUD Mud slide' error. HOWEVER, how long is the offer of $10,000 good for??? Believe me, I'd be able to come close to making one of these 'error' coins.



If you don't like the opinions expressed, then why did you even ask? Did you think making 2 threads about this would impress even more over an obviously damaged (EDITED)

If you are spending money on these coins, being guaranteed by some 'guy' they are rare/unique, thinking they are 'rare and Unique' errors, I suggest you try a new hobby....or start listening to some of those who have posted to this thread. Dissing RLM on Lincoln's, well, you need to learn more about what you are collecting. \

I would wager your 'guy' has convinced you to buy all raw coins (most likely from the 'guy')....this is because they WON'T grade. Send that thing to PCGS...if it makes it into a Genuine slab, I'll PAY for the grading. You really should stop wasting your money on coins such as this one, and try buying graded, key dates that may actually be worth more than face value.

 

From the other Threads from this member.. It looks like you don't understand what an error coin is.. What is post mint or even what may have value..
STOP Buying coins!! STOP trying to sell!!
Spend some time here and study all you can.. because your missing something..
Believe me .. I am no Pro.. but even I can see that this and your other post are a bit ... well ... not on solid footing,, at all...

 

Wow...this is quite a bit of activity for such a short period of time.

I beg of my fellow CTers....please don't feed the trolls.

As for the noob: Welcome. I hope your enjoy your stay here at CoinTalk, however short-lived it may be.

 

sorry man this coin is just another poo'd up lincoln that someone scraped up.