What Are These Worth.

Can anyone tell me the value of these coins.1897 Switzerland coin and this 1953 Canadian coin.Thanks B12

 

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Krause lists the 10 heller from switzerland as worth 3.00 in fine. I would say, however, that it is not an uncommon coin to find in the 50 cent bin in that condition...

the cent from canada is probably worth 10 to 30 cents, depending on whether there is a strap present on the neck of the bust.

 

Rick,the minor currency unit from Switzerland is Rappen (or Centimes in French).Heller was the denomination used in Austria & German East Africa.

Aidan.

 

right you are! don't know what I was thinking.

 

Thanks rick. B12

 

What does Rappen mean? Is there some historic basis for that word to be used to define coinage?

 

Rappen is a derivation from the old word Rabe meaning "raven". Coins minted in Freiburg near Switzerland had a raven figure on them and they were known as "rabenpfennig". As time passed the name was shortened and altered and ended up as "rappen". There are rappenhellers, rappenschillings, etc.

 

wow! I didn't know that... thanks for the information.

Nice website, by the way. Excellent images and loaded with information in good format. Well done.

 

Another interesting thing about these Swiss coins, the design did not change for a very long time, in fact I think they used the same design for over a hundred years, so it is possible, and I have heard of it actually happening in the last few years, to get a coin from circulation dated in the 1880's.

And the oldest I have ever gotten is 1918

 

Krasnaya,
Вы правы о проектах на швейцарских Монетах

 

Я хотел бы собрать их когда-нибудь

 

Krasnaya,
Are you really gonna make me go back to that Russian-English translator site?
Actually it was able to translate everything in your profile EXCEPT your location.
The best part was where it asks your occupation and the translation came back "work"
Also said you collect Russian and ancient Greek coins.Do you have a gold Nicholas II 5 ruble?
This is the best it could do on your last post:
"You are right about projects on Swiss the Coin"

 

Rapp is a fairly common German name in some areas. Napolean had an Aide de Camp with that name. There is a brewery in Bavaria of the same name. There is even a town by the name of Rappen, but their coat of arms is a rearing gothic horse, a little like Frankfurt. Do you know anything about these half-baked comments?

 

Sorry I can't help with that one, I don't even know the official origin of my own last name . Frey's Dictionary of Numismatic Names gave the me the etymology of the coin "rappen" and I've seen plenty of the Freiburg rabenpfennigs. It's one of those cases where the denomination far outlasts the image on the coin its named for. Whether that is the absolute final word on the origin could well be impossible to ever confirm. There are other theories, one of the more interesting is given on this page although I question some of their other origin theories (or at least the wording of them):

http://www.moneymuseum.com/standard...etymologisches/etymologisches_unten.html#rapp

The groschen's origin predates the gros tournois, although it is true that the French coin did appear first before being copied in Germany as the turnosegroschen. The name gros as a denomination goes back to Bohemia with the minting of large bracteates that ended up being called nummi grossi (thick coins) and in any case a "literal translation" of denarius turnosus should not be "big penny on the Tour".

 

Work is correct translation

I collect ancient Greek coins, especially if they are from Tyra(Belgorod-Dnistrovskyi, Olbia, Pantikapaion, Phanagoria, Chersonessos(Kherson). These cities are all on the territory of Ukraine.

Five rubles coins, yes I had them, actually I had 5, 7.5, 10 and 15 R coins in set at one time, but sold them to buy other stuff. Now I miss them or my Tsarsist type set would be complete in Uncirculated condition.

 

Makes sense since "Rappe" is a German word for a black horse. There is an etymological connection though: The "Rappen" coin probably got its name from the bird (Rabe/raven) as mentioned here, and the "Rappe" is black as a raven ...

Christian

 

Right, but that only works with the 10 Rappen/centimes coin. Coins of all other denominations will be more recent ...

(By the way, the 10 rp/ct coin may soon be the smallest denomination in CH. There are plans to do away with the 5 rp pieces, and the 1 rp coin is not actually used in circulation anyway.)

Christian

 

Helvetica was a celtic tribe that inhabited the area before the romans occupied the land some time after Augustus (27bce-14ace).

 

I have at least one coin from Pantikapaion and one from Chersonessos(spelled incorrectly on my coin holder).I had NO idea that Thrace had been part of Ukraine.I'll try to post some pictures for you.They are both quite interesting coins!
I have a "horse" coin from Thrace,Maroneia as well.Was that also in Ukraine?