my oldest (american) error 1788 ct copper clip & rotated die

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  1. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    though might be argued not true american, i live in ct, and ct is in america, so i am rolling with that..1788 mailed bust left, connecticut mint error fine, details, environmental damage curved clip @ 11:00, and though not on holder, it is a rotated die as well..ngc..the only other older coin i have is a double stamped (hammer) french coin from the 1400's..until i can own a pre 1800 us coin, this will have to do...got this from great collections 259650038_4085070978261654_3434777644526940621_n.jpg 259693141_360435852504959_8159115126912540493_n.jpg 259876282_366653791815149_5194859423625640265_n.jpg 260024713_420004473104035_859376805397457848_n.jpg 260617604_269928495099394_846380107570438261_n.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I wonder if back then they cut the blanks from sheets in the same process as they do now.
    Somebody must know. Because there is only one way a curved clip or correctly known as an Incomplete Planchet can occur.

    @JCro57 any input on this one?
     
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  4. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    i have seen quite a few ancient and other colonial coppers with clips and also double struck and brockages, so there must have been some automation for this to occur, if just cutting these by hand, you would think they would of had more control and care, no??
     
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  5. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I have read that the US contracted with British entities for the blanks back in this era due to lack of mined copper here but have not read that they were ever in sheets. As far as the curved clip goes, I suppose it was possible we did make some sheets when the copper was available. Whether or not the Brits used sheets is unknown to me without doing some back tracking.
     
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  6. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    The blanks were cut from sheets much like today, except of course the machinery was man powered instead of hydraulic! Many of the state coinages were minted at different locations, and with no actual records the coins themselves are the only evidence of where they were minted. Along with punch linkage, planchet cutters are sometimes used to help identify the mint. There is at least one distinctive burred cutter that was used quite extensively and is a diagnostic for determining the coin's origin.
     
  7. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    i can't even see where the clip is on this
     
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  8. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    if holder were right side up, clip is in left corner...this is another reason why slabs are not perfect for error coins
     
  9. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    i did a little research, seems a penny in those days was equal to about 2,00 in today's money??..going by the shcilling equals 24.00 and there being 12 pence to the schilling..i might be wrong though was trying to figure out what it might have been spent on in colonial times
     
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