Genuine Curved Clip?

Have had this one for quite some time, finally got around to imaging it. Curious if it looks genuine. Too bad only the 1 in the date is visible.



EDIT: As requested, here is an image with another cent in the recessed area as well as one of the inner edge.

 

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Does another cent fit exactly in the recess? And I know some others would like an image of the clipped edge.

 

Please show the edge but initially it looks legit.

 

Have added a couple new photos to the original post, thanks everyone!

 

I personally think it was post-strike. But I'm not an error expert for sure.

 

I'd guess it to be real, looks like the Blakesley effect on the obverse. Though I'd question the toning.

 

I'm going with damaged on this one,toning looks AT also.

 

Some things look off...I'm no error expert!
The Blakesley Effect seems dramatic to say the least...the clip viewed on the reverse has an odd shape...not seeing any metal flow towards the clip areas...

My gut says post-mint damage but I'd love to hear one of our genuine error expert folks chime in!

 

The raised rims do not appear to have tapered at all on either side, and there seems to be little if any weakness, fading, or stretching of designs. I would like to see an edge shot of the regions where the clips begin rather than the middle.

 

also, you seldom find a curved clip would be a perfect fit for another coin to fit in it as the planchet can change shape from metal flow. I say 51% not genuine. I would be happy to examine it in hand if you want to ship it for me. no charge. just pay shipping

 

seems legit to me, blakesly effect, and another cent fits, but i might be wrong..no expert here..lol

 

Larger clips can be very tricky, and they often have subdued Blakesley Effects. When it comes to clips, my eyes always go to where the rims meet the clipped gap, and they should dovetail in from the fields. On very large clips, the entire rim should taper into the clip. Here is a legit example (Canadian coin, but the process is the same).




Secondly, the Blakesley Effect is caused from a drop in pressure in the upset mill, resulting in a poorly formed rim. Seeing the rim flattened down to the point of touching the legend letters is not correct.

For the OP's coin, I don't think it is legit. The rims where they meet the clip are really squared. The only time you ever see that, is when you strike an incomplete punched planchet and then clipped part pops out during or after the strike (like a 'football' clip). Then, in that case, there is no Blakesley effect.

 

My wife says I'm an expert at being an idiot. So, I'll keep my opinion to myself. I like it though. Good luck.

 

I like it no matter what! Beautiful tone! Interested to hear a final decision about it being a true clip!

 

Interesting, yes. Authentic? I’m in the No camp. Reasons above are consistent with my own. The shear/break line does not appear correctly to me either. Very nice toning though.

 

I was in the no camp at first glance but the more I looked at the fantastic images, after enlarging to the max, I've changed my mind.

I've included the OP's images with arrows and my reasons. IMHO, some of these combinations and what I see can't be produced after the mint. Maybe others with a lot more experience can alter my mind (without mushrooms please.)

Maybe the OP can add images of the edge where the clip meets the rim is the focal point.

 

I'm going to be soaking up all the commentary on this one.

What's going on in the rim above WE?

Is anybody going to call @Fred Weinberg? (Um, oops... )

 

I'd take Joe (JCro57) up on his offer.

 

The OP’s coin is a genuine ‘clipped planchet, imo