modern cent errors- i.e. 90's wide AM

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Daggarjon, Oct 14, 2005.

  1. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    For most of my collecting years, which was mostly cents from circulation, i have used the 'Red Book' for what was 'out of the ordinary'. Scine joining this forum, i came to realize that the Red Book is not all its cracked up to be for things out of the ordinary. The Red Book gives a good idea of last years values and mintages, but not errors, known die clashes, or anything else that is 'out of the ordinary'.

    Now heres my question. I know GD loves to preach that you need to read read read - and i agree whole heartedly. I just dont know where to find it. Does anyone know a good website, or possibly even more then one good website and the best book to use to find these irregularities. (webistes prefferebly :rolleyes: )

    In a seperate post Speedy was taling about a wide AM cent (sorry, i cant find the post to link it now) and it was in the late 90's. This came as a shock to me as it is not mentioned in 'The Red Book'. Although Speedy was rightfully deilightfully excited, it left me more perplexed to find the whole story behind that red cent.

    as always - ANY help is appreciated :D
     
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  3. asian-chick

    asian-chick New Member

    the wide Am was 98', 99', and 2000 i think..97 and 98 had a slightly more then usual amount of cents plated in brass...heres a good site that i know of that has information and pics on many known error coins. http://koinpro.tripod.com/
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Since your preference seems to be to read on your computer - why not sign up for an on-line subscription to Coin World You'd be amazed what you can learn by reading the hobby mags every week.

    In the meantime - CLICK HERE
     
  5. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    These are actually varieties rather than errors which were created when dies for proof coins were inadvertantly misdirected and processed to strike circulation issues.

    It can be quite difficult to find information and accurate pricing for all moderns. Even the Ikes and Kennedys which are very well studied are evolving markets with expanding knowledge. No books have been written about the quarters and the dimes seem to be very understudied. While numerous books exist they become out dated quickly for the moderns.

    Check the various websites and keep up with the papers and the discussion boards. It will be years before most everything appears in book form and pricing settles down.

    Coneca, rotated die site, and similar venues do a good job of tracking the things they do track.
     
  6. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,
    Actually, the 1998, 1999 and 2000 Wide AM varieties are mentioned and priced in the Small cent section of the 2006 "Red Book". For varieties, The Cherrypickers' Guide to Rare Die Varieties by Fivaz and Stanton, edited by Ellis , is a great resource for unusual, collectible and valuable die varieties.
    Have Fun,
    Bill
     
  7. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**


    looks like a time to update my book :)

    thanks!
     
  8. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector

    One note on the Wide AM varieties. The dates listed are the KNOWN dates to have examples of such varieties. Its possible that any Lincoln after 1992 could have been struck with either a proof or pre 1993 reverse die.

    Theoretically, its also possible that a 1993 reverse die, prep'ed in 1992 could have made it into production a bit early, ie its possible that there are some 1992 business strike Linolns with a narrow AM reverse.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Not only possible - it's a fact. But so far they have only discovered 1.
     
  10. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,
    I'm not the one who found the first 1992 Close AM variety, but I sure would like to find the next one.

    It should also be noted that there have been 1999 proof cents found that were struck with business strike dies that have the Aand M touching.

    Have Fun,
    Bill
     
  11. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

  12. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    So in sumnation, just to make sure i understand, Anything (circulated cents) 1993 and after that has the AM NOT touching is a keeper, 1993 that has the cents touching is common. What about 1992 and prior? was there an issue then? I am thinking its the opposite, since i always find the AM in the 92's as being wide apart...
     
  13. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Circulation strikes:

    Rare - 1992 and before with AM touching

    Rare - 1993 and later AM apart



    Proofs:

    Rare: 1998 and 1999 with AM touching

    There is a very rare, known 1992 variety, circulation strike with the AM apart. Theoretically, there may be some undiscovered varieties so I would check the reverses of just about anything :)

    Have Fun,
    Bill
     
  14. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    I think you mean there is a known 92' variety with the AM together... I have foudn dozens of the apart, none touching :rolleyes:
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The rare 1992 is a 1992-D with the AM close together. And I believe there are at least 2 of them known now. There are NO 92 Philadelphia cents with the close AM known.
     
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