Slab toning

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by bruthajoe, Nov 22, 2021.

  1. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    What do you guys think of the toning on this cent?

    Is it pre-slab or progressive?

    Is it common for toning to occur after grading moderns?

    Do grading companies do anything to try to inhibit post slab toning?


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  3. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Progressive.... Slabs are not air tight. I once had a beautiful MS65 SLQ grow a black spunge inside its slab. I have a few early coppers graded by NGC and they tell me that the grade only applies for ten years on copper. After ten years I have to send them in for another evaluation because copper is so reactive to the environment.
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Copper starts to tone the moment it is struck. Slabs can slow it down but not stop it. I know a few collectors that don't collect red copper because of it. I have a lot of cents in slabs that have gone from red to RB and even to brown over the years.
    Not a good thing as far as value goes.
     
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  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    These 09' cent's are known for toning very quick.
    The whole set I had toned and not very attractive either.
    Here is the formative years.
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  6. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    I saw someone else mention this here, one of my other threads, I think. I don't understand how a grade can expire after 10 years. There is no date on the slab. How would you know?
     
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  7. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    I've seen this mentioned here on CT also, but didn't realize it was so common. Can't the coin be prepared better to avoid this problem?
     
  8. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    Is it a fingerprint on the reverse? Is it mishandling? The obverse looks like something burned it. Would acetone wash prevent any of this toning?
     
  9. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    It is on the NGC coin verification page.
     
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  10. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    Oh. Well I'm not sending it back in. That wouldn't make any sense, or cents either.
     
  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    No the reverted back to the pre 83 composition for these coins. They are just very susceptible to toning. An acetone wash isn't going to help. And in a lot of cases optimal storage conditions doesn't even help.

    Note that this doesn't seem to happen to the Bus strikes. It only happens to the PF's. Could be the packaging that was used.
     
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  12. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Plenty of professional photos when first slabbed would be nice.
     
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  13. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    Interesting.
     
  14. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    I agree, It wouldn't even have to be a spectacular photo, just something would be nice.
     
  15. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Bronze, brass and copper plated as well
     
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  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It might even make it worse as it would remove any oil film that might be on the coin that could help protect the copper from the air. After the acetone the bare metal is exposed to possible reaction.
     
  17. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    I'm cerakoting all my coins now. Who's gonna know?
     
  18. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Hopefully thats sarcasm lol
     
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  19. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    I'll try anything
     
  20. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Seriously dont. You will just ruin the numismatic value.
     
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  21. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    IK JK
     
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