guess the grade ike 1976 type-2

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by john65999, Nov 21, 2021.

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guess the grade

Poll closed Nov 23, 2021.
  1. ms-64

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  2. ms-65

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  3. ms-66

    75.0%
  4. ms-66+

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  5. ms-67

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  6. ms-67+

    25.0%
  7. ms-68

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  8. ms-69

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  1. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    could not figure a way to capture the photo from their site without the grade already on it, just go to their site (link supplied) and you can see the horrid coin and see what i mean
     
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  3. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    both are offered on this auction....
     
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

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  5. Dynoking

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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    These are called planchet striations. They happen quite frequently on the Ikes.
    Not nearly as pronounced as the one posted.
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  7. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Never saw two distinct sets of striations or striations cross a coin like that, always one set on the fields and always radial. Could that be from the nickel clad planchet (hardness) + size of the planchet + a worn die?
     
  8. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    not talking about striations ,talking about the gashes and contact marks and all the chatter, i have many 67's they do not look so0 battle worn!!
     
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  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I don't know that the community here has come to that conclusion, Could be roller marks and some I would argue that it is a form of weakness in the mixing of the alloy's. Those striations can be found on most clad coinage.
     
  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Sometimes the difference is the luster on the coin. It has nothing to do with how deformed the planchet might be. Luster has a so to say provenance in the modern coin era. It has to have blaring luster to get above a 67.
    Honestly I would never buy this coin site unseen.
    I think that this coin has smooth blustering smooth surfaces, It shows a luster graze between LI and Ikes forehead. What is flashing in the photo could be insignificant. Especially with the settings that the photographer is using.

    I got to ask you John. What is this? Is it a BS/PF clad or a 40% silver clad?
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  11. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    this is not the coin i was talking about, the one i mentioned is in a great collections current auction..(see above links) the one i mentioned is a 1976-ty-2 clad
     
  12. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Hey. Don’t over think. Just guess. I’m bad at this
     
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  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Like phones
     
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    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

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  15. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I can tell you, this ike would not get a bean. And yes I would say it is over graded. They didn't knock out down for the chatter
     
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  16. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    The reverse isn't too bad but that obverse. I wouldn't even buy it to fill a hole.
     
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  17. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    exactly what i am saying, even if you discount the 'chatter" THERE are several hits on his portrait and many in the field, i own many 67's, none look like that
     
  18. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    bids are up to 1557.00..guess people buy the holder not the coin
     
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  19. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    That's what is happening. That low population count is also contributing. Ikes are also heating up. And true high grade ikes are hard to find. Especially the clad ones. That large clad coin didn't strike up well. That might be why pcgs forgave this one? But when you put a coin like this into a low population like that it should be solid. Especially giving it a +. Nothing says + to me about this coin.
     
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  20. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Here is a 1971 d clad ms66. It has a bean. It looks more high grade than that one.
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  21. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    that sure is a nice one, the way pcgs is slipping , send it in and you might get a 68+ or 69 on it, lol
     
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