question about ddd being worthless and not a real error??

if ddd is worthless, and not a real error, why would they slab it, and there are also articles about this, they call it design creep...just asking for general knowledge as any time someone has such a coin they are told on here they are worthless and common..so??

 

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I agree @john65999 but I'm just trying to figure out the label . ?? What the heck is " Design Creep error" ?

 

the article said the anvil die gets worn like a chisel head and design creeps, so, ddd???

 

Some consider it an error but really just a worn/overused die issue(even if rare)still just a nickel to me.

 

From this page: http://www.error-ref.com/design-creep/

It sounds like to me that "design creep" is (and now for) something completely different than die deterioration doubling, and was specific (in the US, at least) to one run of 2014 P Jefferson Nickels that were all discovered by one person.

I don't work for ANACS but IMO that's why they would attribute it on the slab (if it was a mint error.)

 

https://www.ebay.com/p/180431583?iid=123758632974

only 225.00

 

It says make an offer!!!I'll take a shot for 0.05.

 

That's just some funky error, John. Die deterioration doubling happens in the middle to late stages of use, and is just a bumpy, distorted die.

 

Per error-ref, design creep is a very specific form of die deterioration and the editors refer to it as rare. It is not the same as the die deterioration seen on numerous coins found in circulation

Design Creep
https://www.error-ref.com/design-creep/

Common, non value added deterioration
https://www.error-ref.com/radial-flow-lines/
https://www.error-ref.com/die-deterioration-promoted-by-trails/
https://www.error-ref.com/die-deterioration-doubling/
https://www.error-ref.com/orange-peel-texture/

 

Jump on this @paddyman98

 

I think DDD and design creep are two different types of errors.

 

Oh Great! Now I have to go back through the 30 rolls of nickels I searched this week. LOL

 

+1 on them being different. Here's some reading on it: http://www.error-ref.com/design-creep/

This does appear to be rare, and also limited to this year/mint for nickels.

 

i have come across these before, but threw em back because i thought they were just ddd....grrrr

 

Correct. It is an interesting issue.

Incorrect. Read the articles I provided on the thread below to better educate yourself on the issue and premiums for it.

 

Are you sure you came across them? They appear to be exclusively found on the 2014-P Nickel. For the record, I once threw back a Henning Nickel out of ignorance. We all make mistakes

 

Good. I was going to show that reference. I'm looking for another article I read once to share.

I found it. It is from CoinWeek written by @mikediamond

Collectors Clearinghouse Design Creep (coinworld.com)

This article was on CoinWorld
How new error-variety categories get discovered (coinworld.com)

And here is a CoinTalk thread
design creep Jefferson nickel | Coin Talk

@potty dollar 1878
Mint Error expert Mike Diamond has mentioned that they do have a premium

 

yes, i had one or two, the letters ran out to thye edge..like as if the nickel shrunk before stamping, lol i am kicking myself in the butt..it was from roll hunting..and last year searched about 800.00 in nickels

 

Exactly

 

Creepy for sure.