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  1. Marsman

    Marsman Well-Known Member

    I couldn't resist this Caracalla coin. I love coins with military depictions. On the reverse is the emperor with spear and a standard bearer behind him. My guess is that the standard bearer is the braver of the two.

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    Caracalla Denarius
    Obv. ANTONINVS PIVS AVG BRIT, laureate head right
    Rev. PROFECTIO AVG, Caracalla in military attire standing right holding spear, standard bearer to left.
    RIC 226

    In the Roman Legions, standards were very important. Every century, cohort, and legion had a standard. These symbols represented their units, acted as a symbol of unity and pride, and served as a rallying point during battle. During the Roman Empire, there were many different kinds of signifers: aquilifers that bore the legion’s eagle, imaginifers that carried an image of the emperor, vexillifers who bore a banner with the legion’s name and symbol, and signifers that carried a signum, a tall pole with an open hand, the symbol of the legionaries’ oath of loyalty. All signifers wore animal-skin headpieces in order to be distinguished from the normal soldiers.

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    The task of carrying the standard in battle was dangerous, a soldier had to stand in the first rank and could not defend himself easily. If the standard was lost in battle, the whole unit was dishonored.

    Show me your standard bearers or any other military coins :)
     
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  3. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    THANKS! I often wondered what the hand signified and you have solved my problem!
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    Maximus. Caesar, 235/6-238 AD. Æ Sestertius. (31mm; 23.10 gm; 12h).Rome mint. 2nd emission of Maximinus I, 236 AD. Obv: Bareheaded and draped bust right. Rev: Maximus standing left, holding baton and spear; two signa behind. RIC IV 9; BMCRE 123-4 (Maximinus); Banti 5
     
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  4. Andres2

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  5. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    The standards were deities and were worshipped.
    Here are some vexillums :
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    Caracalla, Rhesaina (Ras al-'Ayn, Syria).
    Obv.: illegible legend, laureate head on eagle, right.
    Rev.: LEG / III / P retrograde / S, vexillum bearing the letter Γ.
    Rhesaina was the base of the Legio III Parthica.

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    Rhesaina again but I don't identify this radiate emperor, left. Probably Caracalla or Severus Alexander. Same rev. as previous coin, but vexillum inscribed A or Λ.


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    Philip the Arab, Dacia.
    Obv. IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind.
    Rev. PROVINCIA DACIA, Dacia seated left holding vexillums inscribed V and XIII, eagle and Lion at sides. Ex. AN II.
    The province of Dacia had 2 legions : the Legio V Macedonica at Potaissa (Turda), its emblem was an eagle and a crown, and the Legio XIII Gemina at Apulum (Alba Iulia), its emblem was a lion.
     
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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Oath ceremony of the Eight Tribes of the Marsic Confederation, banding together to fight the unfairness of Rome against her Allies for The Social War...

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    Marsic Confederation / Italian Allies
    Social War 90-88 BCE
    AR Denarius
    19x17.9mm, 3.7g
    Anonymous Issue, Corfinium Mint
    Obv: Italia head, l, ITALIA behind
    Rev: Oath-taking scene with eight warriors, four on each side, pointing their swords towards a sacrificial pig, which is held by an attendant kneeling at the foot of a standard. -

    Binding the Marsi, Picentines, Paeligni, Marrucini, Vestini, Frentani, Samnites, and Hirpini Tribes into the Marsic Confederation against Rome during the Social War

    Comment: The reverse is based on the gold Stater and Half-Stater from the Second Punic War, and the Ti Viturius denarius...
    Sear 227 SYD 621 SCARCE
     
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  7. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    There is a webpage on "PROFECTIO" types:
    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/PROFECTIO/

    The page has a list of emperors who issued types with that legend.

    Here is my favorite:

    SeverusAlexanderPROFECTIO.jpeg

    Severus Alexander, emperor AD 222-235, departing in 231 for a Persian war.
    Sestertius. 30 mm. 21.68 g. Lovely green patina.
    IMP SEVERVS ALEXANDER AVG
    PROFECTIO AVGVS-TI
    Emperor with spear on horseback right, led by Victory bearing wreath. SC below. RIC 596. Sear II 8012.

    The symbolism of the reverse is clear. He is going off to war, led by Victory.

    In 227 the Parthians were overthrown by Ardeshir, the first Sasanian King. In 230 he invaded Roman territory across the Euphrates river. Attempts to negotiate peace failed and Rome went to war (see this type).
     
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  8. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

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    Constantine I ("the Great)
    Augustus, A.D. 307-337
    AE Nummus, Treveri (Trier) mint, A.D. 307-308
    RIC 781
    Obv: IMP CONSTANTINVS P F AVG
    Rev: PRINCIPI IV-VENTVTIS - Prince in military dress, head left, wtih standard in each hand.
    PTR in exergue; S in left field, A in right
    26 mm, 7.4 g.
     
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  9. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Great post, @Marsman !

    Here’s my favorite coin reverse of Mars holding a standard
    like trophy.

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  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    This is one of my favorite "emperor and standard" coins because it looks like a manga cartoon!

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    Gallienus, AD 253-268.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 3.61 g, 21.1 mm, 12 h.
    Cologne, AD 257-258.
    Obv: GALLIENVS P F AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: VIRTVS AVGG, Gallienus in military attire standing right, holding spear and standard.
    Refs: RIC 58F; Göbl 8821; Cohen 1309; RCV 10413; Hunter 58; ERIC II 1030.
     
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    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Arcadius, A.D. 395-408
    AE22, 5.7 grams, Antioch mint

    Obverse: D N ARCADI-VS P F AVG
    Rosette-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right

    Reverse: GLORIA ROMANORVM
    Emperor standing facing, head right, holding standard and globe

    Mintmark: ANT

    Reference: RIC IX Antioch 68C, pg. 294



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  13. Marsman

    Marsman Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coins :)

    In a thread about standards, the most famous ones, the ones that emperor Augustus lost in the Teutoburg Forest, shouldn’t go unmentioned.
    Germanicus returned the standards, as you can read on the reverse of this dupondius:
    ‘signis recept devictis germ'


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  14. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

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    M COMMODVS ANT P FELIX AVG BRIT – Laureate bust of Commodus right
    P M TR P XI IMP VII [COS V P P] - Concordia standing frontal, head left, holding legionary eagle standard, vertical, in each hand; S-C, left and right, in field, CONC MIL in exergue
    Sestertius, Rome 196 a.D.
    29,5 mm / 20,20g
    RIC 465 (a); Cohen 57 corr (COS IIII); BMCRE 576 (plate 106, Nr.8); Banti 27 (one specimen = the one in the BM), Sear 5738
     
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  15. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    thats a stellar coin.
     
  16. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Yes, indeed!!!
     
  17. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    Some standards:

    Nerva

    NEW Nerva clasped hands denarius.jpg

    Marcus Aurelius & Lucius Verus, Restoration Issue -- 200th anniversary of Actium:

    Antoninvs et Vervs galley anniversary of Actium jpg.jpg

    Elagabalus:

    youthful Elagabalus jpg version.jpg

    Severus Alexander:

    Severus Alexander jpg version.jpg

    Maximinus I Thrax:

    Maximinus I Thrax AR Denarius RIC 18A, RSC 9.jpg

    Delmatius:

    Delmatius jpg version.jpg
     
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  19. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    This reverse is describe as "legionary eagle between two vexilla." They look like standards to me. Is there a difference between a standard and a vexillum?
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    Constantine I ("the Great")
    Augustus, A.D. 307-337
    Ostia mint, A.D. 312-313
    RIC 94
    Obv: IMP C CONSTANTINVS P F AVG
    Rev: S P Q R OPTIMO PRINCIPI - Legionary eagle between two vexilla; hand atop left, wreath atop right
    MOSTT in exergue
    21 x 16 mm, 4.6 g.
     
  20. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    A labarum is a standard (or vexillum) with a Chi-Rho on it. Here's one of my favorites:
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    Constantius II
    Caesar, A.D. 324-337
    Augustus, A.D. 337-361

    (Bronze) AE3
    Siscia mint, A.D. 350
    Obv: D N CONSTAN-TIVS P F AVG
    Rev: HOC SIG-NO VICTOR ERIS - Emperor, standing, facing left, holding labarum (standard with Chi-Rho) being crowned by Victory
    •ΓSIS✳ in exergue; A in left field
    RIC 291
    21mm, 3.8g.
     
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    Guilder Pincher Well-Known Member

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