Macrinus, Elagabalus or Severus Alex?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ryan McVay, Nov 15, 2021.

  1. Ryan McVay

    Ryan McVay Well-Known Member

    OK. I have included this coin in a couple of posts in the past and I thought I had this guy attributed. But today I was going through McAlee and sorting my Elagabalus AE by McAlee numbering and then I was stumped by the attribution of this coin.

    I am leaning towards Elagabalus. But the portrait, rough as it is, had me asking if this was Macrinus (beard). The surfaces are rough so I can't tell if this is a beard or just pitting.
    Next, I looked through some McAlee supplements and saw that they added a few variations for Severus Alexander (855). I'm leaning away from Severus as he isn't depicted with a beard.
    Anyway, there are a couple of things I need to point out on the reverse. The first is that the wreath has these two chainlink features..which I can't find in any other Antioch AE reverse type. The closest die I can find is 791(a). This could be the 4/8 leaf example mentioned in footnote 186.

    Most of the right leaping types have a ground line- also described as a "thigh and leg of an animal". McAlee 792

    Any help is greatly appreciated!
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  3. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    Macrinus was in his early 50s when he became emperor. He is typically pictured with a distinctive fully-bearded portrait. Your coin imo depicts a beardless youth, more in keeping with Elagabalus. The obverse legend isn't completely clear but I believe I can read ANTΩNINOC from 2h to 7h.
     
  4. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    ANTΩNINOC, very clear. => Elagabalus.
     
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  5. Ryan McVay

    Ryan McVay Well-Known Member

    OK. So, I must have not had any brains today..that's kinda obvious.
    So this must be a variant of 791(a) w/8 leaf elements. Footnote 186, McAlee.
     
  6. Ryan McVay

    Ryan McVay Well-Known Member

    My McAlee 792/2 should be shipping soon...I hope! McAlee 792_2.jpg
     
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  7. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Actually, when I saw the obverse portrait, the first thing I thought of was Caracalla. Like Elagabalus, was also called Antoninus on his coins.
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    While I believe the answer here is Elagabalus, we should remember that Antoninus was also used on some coins of Diadumenian. If you have the whole legend, these can be recognized by a form of Opellius (some abbreviated) on the left or a final letter K or KAI for Caesar on the right. Some, but not all, include an abbreviated form of Diadumenian. We read all the clues and eliminate the ones we can but we don't always get an easy answer especially from less than complete coins. This is one reason I prefer well struck coins but worn to lower grades over unworn, rough and part legend coins.
    Diadumenian from Markianopolis
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