One sold as real and the other as fake... can you tell the difference?

Hello again CT'ers,

I thought that this would elicit a laugh (or groan)... An EBayer whom I will not name but whom most of you will likely guess, just sold a Pertinax denarius as genuine, and is now selling an identical one as fake (pretty much the week after the last one).

Can you guess which one was sold as the genuine article for EUR 565 last week?

 

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idk..but i'd say the bottom one sold as authentic?..i'd question both tho...

 

I suspect the first is fake, with artificial wear and defects added on

 

Yeah I saw this one too; described by the notorious seller as "MODERNE FÄLSCHUNG". It is struck from modern dies by Lipanoff Studio.

 

If you look at both coins, they are actually the exact same obverse and reverse dies. The first was the one that sold as genuine, the second is being sold as a fake a week later. They are both fakes, if you ask me.

Forgers are getting much better at "distressing" silver coins to make them look like they have authentic wear (micro-abrasions, dings, etc). There was another fake denarius of Vespasian being offered with similar treatment... if it wasn't for the obviously fake style of the portrait, I may have been taken in. It just goes to show you that you can never be too careful.

 

The reverse does look slightly different, mainly on the eagles neck though

 

They both looked tooled IMO. Any one have an authentic example?

 

Of course they are both fakes.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pid=6313
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pid=5244
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pid=11063
...and many others.