A bucket-list coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by +VGO.DVCKS, Nov 12, 2021.

  1. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    ...No, nothing dramatic, at least in terms of the price. But, with ongoing thanks to everyone here who's talked up Marc Breitsprecher on VCoins, this was the first of these I've ever had.
    COINS, PERSIA, Achaemenid Empire. Artaxerxes I to Xerxes II (455-420 BC) AR Siglos.jpg
    Lacking the references he cites, I'll just quote Breitsprecher's listing.

    "Title: Persia. Achaemenid Empire. Artaxerxes I to Xerxes II (455-420 BC) AR Siglos
    Attribution:
    Carradice Type IV group A
    Date: 455-420 BC
    Obverse: Great King right, in a running or kneeling stance, holding bow and dagger, small punch mark in right field
    Reverse: Shallow rectangular incuse
    Size: 16.02mm
    Weight: 5.56 grams
    Description: VF."
    ...I needed the convergence of the familar reverse incuse with the 5th c. chronology (Herodotus, and so forth), along with the obverse detail, including the banker's mark.

    Post any coin that you're really glad you finally found. Especially independently of the price range. ...Medieval is optional, but encouraged!
     
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  3. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Very desirable and classic coin:wideyed::cigar:
    Big fan of Mark Breitsprecher:singing:
    Your countermark is proof of ancient super markets, as clearly it's an inverse Safeway logo
    safeway_logo.jpg

    Here's mine. He deserves a better picture than that. And has the Playboy bunny countermark on his reverse (proof of something entirely more sexy was going on back then as well):
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  4. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @Ryro, that's Brilliant. Safeway --Of Course; I was at one on the way home from work this very day! As one of our poets liked to say, --Coincidence?
    Regarding Playboy, back in the day, I used to prefer Penthouse, for the relative diversity of the subjects. (Is this legal? Skin color.)
     
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  5. kirispupis

    kirispupis Well-Known Member

    Very nice coin! A later version of this is on my short list, but I haven't picked it up yet so I don't have anything shiny to show here... :)

    Also, perhaps the coin was upside down when it was countermarked at Safeway?
     
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  6. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    LOL
     
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  7. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    A bargain bin Siglos at 10 euros.
    siglos.jpg
     
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  8. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Sweet, @JayAg47.
    ...I still miss real coin shows, ...and having any money at the effectively random intervals when I got to them. (I'm whining; somebody needs to slap me.)
     
  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    There are four major types of these Persian sigloi. I have three so my 'bucket list' includes Type 1 which I am missing. Type I is a half length figure (no legs) holding a clutch of arrows in hand. Rather few of them are well centered and clearly struck showing the arrows as well as this Triton coin:
    https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=272235
    More look like this one:
    https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=380222

    Type II - drawing bow shooting arrow
    g71440fd0452.jpg

    Type III - spear over shoulder
    g71670bb0091.jpg

    Type IV - with dagger
    g71680bb0124.jpg

    Certainly many come with countermarks. The type IV below has several including one cute little owl. These coins were supposed to be oval struck vertically but this one was made horizontally which may have made it suspicious to several people who added their own test marks???
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    The three types I have also come as gold darics but I have never seen a Type I in gold.
     
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    ACHAEMENID EMPIRE.jpg
    ACHAEMENID EMPIRE
    AR Siglos
    OBVERSE: Persian king or hero in kneeling/running stance right, holding spear and bow
    REVERSE: Incuse punch
    Struck at Persia, 485-420 BC
    5.5g, 16mm
    Carradice Type IIIb, Group A/B (pl. XII, 18)
     
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  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I hate you people...now I want one of these... :)
     
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  12. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    So it looks like mine is a Type IV. I did not know this. Siglos.jpg
     
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  13. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Very cool assortment; seeing the range is a real education. ...What can people recommend for (um, online) references?
     
  14. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Wonderful coin. A siglos(or perhaps a few) is a bucket list coin for me too, even with my otherwise specialized collecting focus, but I haven't acquired any yet.
     
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  15. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    On your page, @red_spork. Only took me, what, 53 years....
     
  16. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    [​IMG]
    Darius II - Artaxerxes II, (420 - 375 B.C.)
    Persian Empire, Lydia, Anatolia
    AR Siglos
    O: Kneeling-running figure of the Great King right, bearded, crowned, dagger in right hand, bow in left hand, waist indicated, pellets on sleeves.
    R: Oblong incuse.
    Sardes (Sart, Turkey) mint
    14mm
    5.2g
    Carradice Type IV (middle) B, pl. XIV, 43; SNG Kayhan 1033; SGCV II 4683
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Big congrats @+VGO.DVCKS ! Nice to get Bucket List Items... very cool.

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    Persia Achaemenid Type III spear over shoulder Darius I to Xerxes II Ca 485-420 BCE AR Siglos Bankers Marks Incuse rev
     
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  18. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    I wanted one of those too and managed to get one cheaply
    upload_2021-11-13_21-12-45.png
    Auction house attribution:

    PERSIA, Achaemenid Empire. temp. Darios I to Xerxes II (ca 485-420 BC) AR Siglos, Sardes mint.
    Persian king or hero, wearing kidaris and kandys , quiver over shoulder, in kneeling-running stance right, holding spear and bow
    Rev: Incuse punch.
    Carradice Type IIIb, Group A/B (pl. XII, 17); Meadows, Administration 322; BMC Arabia pl. XXV, 17; Sunrise 25
    5,44 g, 17 mm
     
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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    PERSIA, Achaemenid Empire.
    Darios I to Xerxes II. Circa 485-420 BCE
    AV Daric (14mm, 8.30 g).
    Lydo-Milesian standard.
    Sardes mint.
    Persian king or hero, wearing kidaris and kandys, quiver over shoulder, in kneeling-running stance right, holding spear in right hand, bow in left /
    Incuse punch.
    Carradice Type IIIb, Group A/B (pl. XIII, 27);
    Meadows, Administration 321; BMC Arabia pl. XXIV, 26
    Ex: CNG
     
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  20. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

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  21. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Congrats, @ambr0zie! Love it when that happens! @Alegandron, I like how you waited to bring out the heavy artillery! :<}
     
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