George Morgans middle name??????

Any idea where he's buried? Tombstone inscription maybe? Prob. a "T" also.

 

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The February 1925 Numismatist had his obituary and lists his wife and three children surviving: "Miss Phyllis Morgan, Leonard P. Morgan, who is an electrolytic chemist in the United States Assay Office at New York, and Mrs. C.M. Graham."

Maybe some of you with access to www.ancestry.com can use that to trace down some living relatives ... All I've got. All the bios I have just show the initial T.

 

See this;

 

Ancestry.com doesn't have a spouse/children listed for him. So it's going to be hard to track his direct relatives down with just a name.

 

I found him in the 1880 U.S Census, he lived at 4047 Spruce Street Philadelphia. He lists Alice as his wife, and Grace and Leonard as his children. He didn't write a middle name or initial, and he listed his occupation as Engraver . Pretty cool to see.

 

It is starting to look like T probably is his middle name. We may never know though...

 

I found all his Census records (1880, 1900, 1910, 1920). He never lists his full middle name. Another interesting fact, he didn't know his actual birthday, on the 4 Censuses he lists; about 1846, Nov 1849, about 1847, about 1846, all as his birthday. So I think it's possible he didn't know his middle name.

The England & Wales Birth Index has 2 matches for a George Morgan born in Birmingham in the 1843-1849 time frame: FreeBMD - Search Neither have middle names listed, so it looks like his middle initial or name wasn't official.

There is 1 George Thomas Morgan listed for the time period, but he wasn't born in Birmingham.

*The link doesn't bring up the search, here are the 2 results (If you scroll down, click on the "view original").FreeBMD Entry Info FreeBMD Entry Info 2

 

So far what it looks like, assuming he's in the records, Morgan was either born in March 1846 or December 1847, and didn't have a middle initial/name listed. In 1880 (4 years after coming to the U.S) Morgan wasn't using the middle initial T, or at least he didn't list it on the U.S Census (Which you would expect him to do if he was using the initial). Morgan first uses the initial T. on the 1900 Census (and every census after).

 

The Census back then was done in person, door to door, and whoever was home answered the questions, which is probably why the birthdate varied.

 

Wow, nobody found out yet? Lets just make one up....how 'bout Tecumseh?

 

He died in Philadelphia, but according to Find A Grave his burial location is "unknown".

I guess we'll never know what the T was for.

 

Sometimes the middle intial is the name!

 

A lot of votes for that in the thread already so from the mounting evidence that may be the safest thing to assume if all else fails.

 

I've thought about this angle as well but for some reason an Englishman from 1845 with just an initial doesn't seem right.
On the other hand my mother (born in 1932) was not given a middle name. She liked the name Marie so "gave" it to herself later in life.
It will not appear on her birth certificate nor will it appear on her death certificate (which I hope won't be for many years).

In the family we all know it's Janet Marie but we're the only ones that really know that (until now).

In a different scenario if anyone has ever read The Talisman by Stephen King and Peter Straub there is a character know as "The Morgan". This would explain the T but not the George.
Somehow I don't see it though. The Morgan was a bad dude.

 

So Steven King's a coin collector? I like that. Notable authors within our hobby. Maybe?

 

Maybe it's Thelonious, or maybe it's just the letter T. Alot of middle names were just letters back in that time period. Well that's my guess, cause I know it wasn't Thelonious. later Monk

 

Well whats the rule with names? If there is a period after the "T" does that mean that it is a name shortened? Every legal name for him has a period after the "T"

 

Then explain this courtesy of the White House http://www.whitehouse.gov/about/presidents/harrystruman;

No matter which rule you chose, this proves it wrong. BTW, for those who do not know, Harry S. Truman's middle name was "S".

 

"Truman did not have a middle name, only a middle initial. In his autobiography, Truman stated, "I was named for . . . Harrison Young. I was given the diminutive Harry and, so that I could have two initials in my given name, the letter S was added. My Grandfather Truman's name was Anderson Shippe [sometimes also spelled 'Shipp'][8] Truman and my Grandfather Young's name was Solomon Young, so I received the S for both of them." He once joked that the S was a name, not an initial, and it should not have a period, but official documents and his presidential library all use a period.[7] The Harry S. Truman Library has numerous examples of the signature written at various times throughout Truman's lifetime where his own use of a period after the S is conspicuous. The Associated Press Stylebook has called for a period after the S since the early 1960s, when Truman indicated he had no preference.[9] However, the use of a period after his middle initial is not universal. Prior to 2008, his official White House biography did not use it.[10] All official United States Navy listings of USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75) include the period after the S."

 

so back to "whats the rule with names?"