1967 SMS Cameo Jefferson Nickel???? Help!!!

Same way you got cameos on the brilliant proofs from 1936 to 1972.

After hardening and tempering, the dies would have an oxide layer on them. the dies would be cleaned in a acid bath to remove the oxide leaving a slightly etched surface. Then the dies would be polished. This polishing smoothed and polished the fields but did not get down into the devices. This results in a cameo contrast between the devices and the fields on the struck coins. But since that contrast is created by the very light surface etching in the devices, the movement of the metal during the striking rapidly "polishes" the surfaces inside the devices and the contrast disappears.

The OP coin is not a cameo, it is not an SMS. It is an uncirculated coin struck from some severely worn dies showing heavy flowlining in the fields.

 

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How rapidly? 10-20 strikes, 100-200 strikes?

 

I don't know exactly. I doubt 10 to 20 strikes would do it, but I wouldn't be surprised if 100 to 200 was more than enough.

 

sounds reasonable

 

Because most of the SMS sets have been picked thru, and some dealers don't like anyone picking their inventory. Cameo and Dcam coins are hard to find, unless already slabbed.

 

They're not doing this with bullion buffalos right? I would expect much more from our government than to let a contracted company exploit the publics product.

 

I don't buy bullion. For the most part if a dealer is lowering his inventory of mint bullion, he has them in his case, for you to pick your coin.

 

Bullion coins are sold only by third party sellers (like your LCS). Bullion was intended for investment purposes. But collectors will be collectors and get anything they (we) can get for the collection.

 

Tell me honestly, who gets first choice?

 

Tough question. I believe that there are not that many people out there buying up silver to invest. A lot are not even aware that, that is an option. I think the stock traders are the folks that buy up they sell lots of silver. However, I think that we collectors get the first choice as we know 1) that bullion coins are out there, and 2) we know where to get them without having to have a stock broker.
But Most of us (collectors) really don't buy enough in bulk to make it work as an investment.

 

What triggered me was a YouTube video of someone who sent in 20 Gold eagles and got 3 back as ms70 and one as MS70DCAM. What's the chances of that, unless you are the dealer?

 

I had a choice of two proof sets 1957. The first had an original surfaces molted/ streaky red green blue patina.
Then I looked at the second and it had a blaring cameo Franklin.
Which set would you want to buy?

 

Patina never impressed me. Mint state should be as if it was fresh from the mint. Patina is post mint stress disorder IMO. Maybe even similar to PMS.

 

Every coin that has been minted starts it's toning in the minted stage,
There are many a coin that didn't get rinsed correctly. There are many that burnish. Original coins should have a tone. Even streaks of color. I like @Lehigh96 interpretation of original, he says it on most every thread he posts.

 

This would turn into a long conversation. I think if I was given the the choice of MS '92 morgan with a halo vs a bright one, I would choose the bright one. Just my preference, for me bright is more appealing. I wouldn't mind having either though.

 

Hi, I have a coin that looks identical to this. I am a beginner and do not know much regarding all these different errors/variations. Have you been able to figure out what it is and it’s value?

 

Hi, I have a coin that looks identical to this. I am a beginner and do not know much regarding all these different errors/variations. Have you been able to figure out what it is and it’s value?

 

Hi, I have a coin that looks identical to this. I am a beginner and do not know much regarding all these different errors/variations. Have you been able to figure out what it is and it’s value?

 

HI, Amanda welcome to CT. The 67 Jefferson from the OP is a from a SMS set that the mint produced in 67.
They are quite common, but there are certain coins that do have a premium. And those are the high grade coins with cameo
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1967-5c-sms-cam/84199
and Deep cameo surfaces.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1967-5c-sms-dcam/94199

 

All true except the OP’s coin is not an SMS and didn’t come from as SMS set.