Is this worth the investment?

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  1. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    You just don't buy coins like this as an investment it doesn't work that way but i can't read the buyer's mind after all.
     
  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I get the NGC Weekly Market Report which shows which coins increase significantly in value and which ones drop...if you can tell which will do what, you gonna be a rich fellow. To address your question, I would not have the vaguest idea of what this coin would do in the future.
     
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  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I'm a collector, I don't invest.

    The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.......
     
  6. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Generally accepted rule of thumb: Coin collecting is a hobby, not an investment.

    That being said, the Greysheet has the coin in that grade listed at $110,000.
     
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  7. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    arbitrage?
     
  8. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Just two statements.
    I rendered no opinions.
    (But I should have left the "That being said" part off.)
     
  9. JDunc

    JDunc New Member

    I collect coins, I do not invest in them. If I want a return on something, I’ll seek stocks, bonds, etc.
     
  10. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    If you are paying EF-45 money for it, it’s no investment because it’s over graded. It’s really a high end VF.

    I have a Fine-15 example of this coin I bought at fair retail about seven years ago. If I sold it now, I would lose money.
     
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  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Really nice coin. I see coins of this quality as a place to park money that is not needed for many years. It's probably going to retain most of it's value over the years.
    Short term, I can't see someone making money on the coin. The cap gain taxes are something to keep in mind.
    Long term, I feel that Bust coin prices will keep going up over the years but a person could probably find a better return in other ways.

    I see coins as an investment in something that I love to do and not something I expect to make money with. Everything we buy is an investment of some sort.
     
  12. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Appealing piece of early Americana. If I had to guess, coins like this will always be desired and have interested buyers...historically they have done quite well. But the coin market cycles.
    Hey, something like mid-grade bust dimes could well gain better, percentage wise...
    Like others have said, probably best to buy it only if you are quite well off and will get a lot, and I mean a lot, of enjoyment out of ownership.
     
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  13. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    Have you ever wondered why most coin dealers go out of business?

    Coin collecting is a hobby. Buy what you like with disposable income. If the coin goes up, Great. If it doesn't go up, or if it loses money, then your payback is from enjoying the coin for X period of time.
     
  14. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Myself, I would never "invest" even 1% of my total assets into a single coin. So for someone worth $10 million or more, sure, play around with it. I can't tell you how many coins I've seen multiple times on Heritage and with each sale, the previous owner lost thousands. Too much risk for me to consider this anything more than a hobby for spending money on, not "investing".
     
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  15. Millard

    Millard Coindog Supporter

    Run the number. NGC says its not valid and that the coin has been removed from the holder.
     
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  16. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    If you have $103,000.00 to spend on this coin and don't know if it a good investment then no is your answer. Coins can be an investment if you hold them say 20-40 years. There is no way to know if coins will go up or down in value. Coins are a great hobby. If you collect coins just as investments then you will not get hardly any enjoyment out of them.
     
  17. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Like Ruben is really going to buy this...


    yeah right
     
  18. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    You are really a twisted and screwed up person. I wish I knew who you were in real life. I would then be sure to avoid you in any business dealings.
     
  19. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    Code:
    NGC Cert #
        2030769-002
    
    NGC Description
        1796 15 STARS O-101 50C
    
    NGC Grade
        Certificate no longer valid: Removed from holder

    That is correct. Some of our stolen coins had this happen. I can't see how they can sell this like this for so much money if it has been cracked out of the slab.
     
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  20. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I figured this would turn into another stolen coin thread. I wonder if the dealer has not kept the listing up to date. I can't tell how old the listing is. The dealer may have sent the coin back to NGC to question the grade. I'm just throwing some thoughts out there. It is a rather strange listing.
     
  21. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    How did NGC know the coins were removed from the holder? Maybe they just show that when the coin has been reported as stolen?
     
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